Wazua
»
Club SK
»
Life
»
So Weinstein also ate Lupita
Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
|
Kusadikika wrote:For men. If one Friday night you go out with a girl and you ended up having sex and then one week later you had a disagreement. If this girl was to write anonymously in a newspaper article a detailed and truthful account of everything that happened between the 2 of you and you got the paper and read the story 3 weeks later there is a very good chance you would not recognize yourself in the story. Men and women have a way of remembering different things while seeing the same thing. Passage of time and things like regret or jealousy also have a powerful influence on memory.
For women: If one Friday night you go out with a dude and end up having sex that you plan to have, are prepared for and enjoy, you discuss the experience with your BFF’s or write about it in glowing terms even after you quarrel with the boyfie. On the other hand if you go out with a dude, you get a bit tipsy, want to go home, but he convinces you to go to his place for a cup of coffee to reduce the tipsiness before going home. He then wants to have sex, but you do not and you say no. He insists and is a little forceful but not outrightly violent. You relent to prevent escalation to rape/violence. He will remember it as a consensual encounter, but you will remember/write about it differently. Because the man did not listen to your no’s. Respect for the agency of the woman is what distinguishes the two outcomes.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
|
Lupita's story is one that shall live for ages. Her writing is one that shall even open doors for her in book writing. In the meantime, wazua alpha males shall still be struggling to pay for their "car". Boss, that lady, weka yeye pamoja na the heros of this country. Lakini, you are allowed to post upus on the internet. Luckily for you, you are not as brave as she is to put your real name here. You are just a coward. Keyboard warrior. Let women who are strong and with conviction do their thing. If you are lucky, they might actually give birth to your heirs. Otherwise, just stay with your stupid mama who just says yes and expect your kids to be wise. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 506
|
Dahatre wrote:Kusadikika wrote:For men. If one Friday night you go out with a girl and you ended up having sex and then one week later you had a disagreement. If this girl was to write anonymously in a newspaper article a detailed and truthful account of everything that happened between the 2 of you and you got the paper and read the story 3 weeks later there is a very good chance you would not recognize yourself in the story. Men and women have a way of remembering different things while seeing the same thing. Passage of time and things like regret or jealousy also have a powerful influence on memory.
For women: If one Friday night you go out with a dude and end up having sex that you plan to have, are prepared for and enjoy, you discuss the experience with your BFF’s or write about it in glowing terms even after you quarrel with the boyfie. On the other hand if you go out with a dude, you get a bit tipsy, want to go home, but he convinces you to go to his place for a cup of coffee to reduce the tipsiness before going home. He then wants to have sex, but you do not and you say no. He insists and is a little forceful but not outrightly violent. You relent to prevent escalation to rape/violence. He will remember it as a consensual encounter, but you will remember/write about it differently. Because the man did not listen to your no’s. Respect for the agency of the woman is what distinguishes the two outcomes. Devil's advocate: The difference here is that there was an implicit or explicit gain in the end. Your example, while valid, seems not to fit the context.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
|
alma1 wrote:Lupita's story is one that shall live for ages. Her writing is one that shall even open doors for her in book writing.
In the meantime, wazua alpha males shall still be struggling to pay for their "car".
Boss, that lady, weka yeye pamoja na the heros of this country.
Lakini, you are allowed to post upus on the internet. Luckily for you, you are not as brave as she is to put your real name here. You are just a coward. Keyboard warrior.
Let women who are strong and with conviction do their thing. If you are lucky, they might actually give birth to your heirs. Otherwise, just stay with your stupid mama who just says yes and expect your kids to be wise. Jezzzus, what is the world coming to? You seduce a woman, invite her for lunch in your house, after lunch you both head to your bedroom for some intimate moments, you strip naked and have massages and blowjobs and then she tells you "ingiza kichwa peke yake", then the woman writes in the New York Times that you sexually harassed her. And she never screamed or called 911. It was all consensual. What kind of nonsense is this? This is called seduction and not sexual harassment. How the hell will men ever get married if they cant seduce a woman, invite her lunch and then go to the bedroom to have sex?
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
|
Dahatre wrote:It never ceases to amaze me how predictable the narrative of sexual harassment/abuse/assault/violence is.
As soon as a woman accuses a man of sexual misconduct we quickly find ways to absolve the man by focusing on the woman’s behavior. What did the woman do/not do to bring the abuse onto herself—Why did she go to his house? Why did she drink? what was she wearing? How can we believe her? etc etc..
The net effect is that we never ask the central questions—Why can’t men stop sexually harassing/assaulting/raping women? When does a man, especially a man in power become accountable for his behavior? Why do so many men appear to enjoy coercive sex? Why do men not respect the agency of women?
If we asked the latter questions of men, we might have a fighting chance of raising men who know how to relate to women respectfully.
And it never ceases to amaze me how people like yourself are so adamant about throwing out due process in favor of mental mob justice. We can't be sentencing people based on hearsay, and sensible people question hearsay relentlessly till evidence is produced.
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
|
So Weinstein also ate Lupita
There're two ways of looking at this...
1. That Lupita was one more of Wein's victims
2. That Wein was one more beneficiary of Lupita's generosity.
Which one did you intend?
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
|
gk wrote:So Weinstein also ate Lupita
There're two ways of looking at this...
1. That Lupita was one more of Wein's victims
2. That Wein was one more beneficiary of Lupita's generosity.
Which one did you intend? I'm reminded of Archer's A Twist In The Tale. Women go through alot. I remember someone trying to paraphrase to me... a small boned man being locked up in a prison full of gays! But that asdie, you don't get called up by a busy powerful director, and not expect sho(r)t time to be on the menu
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
|
hardwood wrote:alma1 wrote:Lupita's story is one that shall live for ages. Her writing is one that shall even open doors for her in book writing.
In the meantime, wazua alpha males shall still be struggling to pay for their "car".
Boss, that lady, weka yeye pamoja na the heros of this country.
Lakini, you are allowed to post upus on the internet. Luckily for you, you are not as brave as she is to put your real name here. You are just a coward. Keyboard warrior.
Let women who are strong and with conviction do their thing. If you are lucky, they might actually give birth to your heirs. Otherwise, just stay with your stupid mama who just says yes and expect your kids to be wise. Jezzzus, what is the world coming to? You seduce a woman, invite her for lunch in your house, after lunch you both head to your bedroom for some intimate moments, you strip naked and have massages and blowjobs and then she tells you "ingiza kichwa peke yake", then the woman writes in the New York Times that you sexually harassed her. And she never screamed or called 911. It was all consensual. What kind of nonsense is this? This is called seduction and not sexual harassment. How the hell will men ever get married if they cant seduce a woman, invite her lunch and then go to the bedroom to have sex? People still practice the kichwa thing.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
|
|
|
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
|
Rapists! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
|
Dahatre wrote:Kusadikika wrote:For men. If one Friday night you go out with a girl and you ended up having sex and then one week later you had a disagreement. If this girl was to write anonymously in a newspaper article a detailed and truthful account of everything that happened between the 2 of you and you got the paper and read the story 3 weeks later there is a very good chance you would not recognize yourself in the story. Men and women have a way of remembering different things while seeing the same thing. Passage of time and things like regret or jealousy also have a powerful influence on memory.
For women: If one Friday night you go out with a dude and end up having sex that you plan to have, are prepared for and enjoy, you discuss the experience with your BFF’s or write about it in glowing terms even after you quarrel with the boyfie. On the other hand if you go out with a dude, you get a bit tipsy, want to go home, but he convinces you to go to his place for a cup of coffee to reduce the tipsiness before going home. He then wants to have sex, but you do not and you say no. He insists and is a little forceful but not outrightly violent. You relent to prevent escalation to rape/violence. He will remember it as a consensual encounter, but you will remember/write about it differently. Because the man did not listen to your no’s. Respect for the agency of the woman is what distinguishes the two outcomes. As a man, you should be able to tell when it's time. Do not pick up a girl and have sex on day one, you would not have had enough time to know her well, in fact you should never invite her to your home. Don't be so desperate.
BBI will solve it :)
|
|
|
Wazua
»
Club SK
»
Life
»
So Weinstein also ate Lupita
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
|