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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:A low of KES 13.5 prints! Down 17.2% intraday.. Buy now or forever hold your regrets. If only I could gain courage to reenter financials.. COOP and KCB would be my only targets http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP
Here we are.. Massive store of value A definite buy for those still watching http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Buy only when you hear the following; Interest rates cap law reviewed Economy has started to perform;no job cuts It has started raining in the country Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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You will never go wrong with fundamentals. If profits and dividend start rising then share price will follow suit Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:You will never go wrong with fundamentals.
If profits and dividend start rising then share price will follow suit @stocksmaster welcome back to wazua. I missed you
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:Mr. Sulu wrote:[quote=obiero][quote=Cde Monomotapa]^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage)  KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch? The writing is on the wall Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids... Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html Veni, vedi, veci..  @@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote] @Obiero In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB. If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening. KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn. Gap is ksh.11.1bn KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn Gap is ksh.11.4bn It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html[/quote] Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May " Here we are.. COOP taking EQTY territory http://www.businessdaily...76382-151kjf4/index.html
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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@ericsson on August 18th COOP printed KES 13.5
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:@ericsson on August 18th COOP printed KES 13.5 Sikia sasa kuruka maneno Wasn't it you who said about two weeks ago that Coop is going to have a fall to 15 level. When challenged unaruka kusema maneno ya miezi mbili ago Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:@ericsson on August 18th COOP printed KES 13.5 Sikia sasa kuruka maneno Wasn't it you who said about two weeks ago that Coop is going to have a fall to 15 level. When challenged unaruka kusema maneno ya miezi mbili ago Give wazuans the link to my alleged statement. I simply said that it will fall and it has, from KES 18 to circa KES 16.5.. And indeed it could go to KES 15 or even KES 6.. I once bought it at KES 5.95
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:@ericsson on August 18th COOP printed KES 13.5 Sikia sasa kuruka maneno Wasn't it you who said about two weeks ago that Coop is going to have a fall to 15 level. When challenged unaruka kusema maneno ya miezi mbili ago Give wazuans the link to my alleged statement. I simply said that it will fall and it has, from KES 18 to circa KES 16.5.. And indeed it could go to KES 15 or even KES 6.. I once bought it at KES 5.95 KES 15 here we come.. @ericsson you may quote this in next few days
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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@Obiero Scream blood till it falls to 9-10 bob per share Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Ericsson wrote:@Obiero
Scream blood till it falls to 9-10 bob per share Nice one  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:@Obiero
Scream blood till it falls to 9-10 bob per share Nice one 9 is too optimistic. Even with a meltdown at the NSE, the worst we may see shall be KES 12, but KES 15 shall be sighted, as early as tomorrow, latest Tuesday next week. It's a definite buy at any price close to KES 14.5
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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KES 15.8 sighted http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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[quote=obiero]KES 15.8 sighted http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP[/quote] Tunataka 11 bob per share Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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11 bob ngumu
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch? The writing is on the wall Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids... Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html @@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html
@Obiero In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB. If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening. KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn. Gap is ksh.11.1bn KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn Gap is ksh.11.4bn It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html
[/quote] Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May " [/quote] Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:[quote=obiero]Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch? The writing is on the wall Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids... Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html Veni, vedi, veci.. @@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote] @Obiero In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB. If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening. KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn. Gap is ksh.11.1bn KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn Gap is ksh.11.4bn It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html[/quote] Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May " Now at KES 15.80.. Up 9.32% today on slim volume.. Exchange bar rings true Aiii 15.80 aje and it closed at 18.60 yesterday. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:enyands wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:obiero wrote:Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch? The writing is on the wall Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids... Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html Veni, vedi, veci.. @@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html
@Obiero In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB. If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening. KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn. Gap is ksh.11.1bn KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn Gap is ksh.11.4bn It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html
Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May " Now at KES 15.80.. Up 9.32% today on slim volume.. Exchange bar rings true Aiii 15.80 aje and it closed at 18.60 yesterday. TBT
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,515 Location: nairobi
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Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data. Though I was dead wrong about simba which reigns solidly supreme, growing larger and larger
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data. Though I was dead wrong about simba which reigns solidly supreme, growing larger and larger Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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