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Rank: Member Joined: 7/7/2009 Posts: 41
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Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:Spikes wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Fyatu wrote:12 bob inaweza Will be achieved next week  Are you averaging down? 13.70 waaaaah there is no mercy from Mr. Market. Big lesson for wanna be TZ investors that the economy looks good on paper in terms of population and GDP growth but is very hostile to foreign businesses. KCB, ARM, KK, Uchumi can bear witness. TZ gov even barred their citizens from investing in Safaricom! Average down nope, exited at 17-17.5 courtesy of @hisah. Fight another day, lost cash but smiling Someone here said they are waiting to enter @ 10 bob  . I listened and exited @ 21. Nakumatt, ARM .... and other family run companies.... It's a wrap Happiness is not the absence of problems, It's the ability to deal with them
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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This one has shafted people aplenty. Wacha tu. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Debt fueled growth rarely ends well.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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2 cement firms in trouble http://www.businessdaily...03478-hbpi34/index.html
ARM and ____? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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the deal wrote:Debt fueled growth rarely ends well. For safaricom it ended well. For the likes of ARM the debt fuelled growth was an avenue for the owners to skim the company and cut deals Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:the deal wrote:Debt fueled growth rarely ends well. For safaricom it ended well. For the likes of ARM the debt fuelled growth was an avenue for the owners to skim the company and cut deals I don't think Safaricom, once it reached critical mass, was ever as debt-laden (Debt:Equity or Debt Service:Revenue) as ARM was. Plus it had the support of Vodafone which is a monster when compared to Safaricom or the entire Kenyan economy! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:the deal wrote:Debt fueled growth rarely ends well. For safaricom it ended well. For the likes of ARM the debt fuelled growth was an avenue for the owners to skim the company and cut deals I don't think Safaricom, once it reached critical mass, was ever as debt-laden (Debt:Equity or Debt Service:Revenue) as ARM was. Plus it had the support of Vodafone which is a monster when compared to Safaricom or the entire Kenyan economy! ARM was mismanaged. Safaricom utilised the debt money well. Vodafone didn't pump money into safaricom. Safaricom was active in the corporate bond market from the period 2000-2010 when dividend payouts were also low. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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tweroff bob has printed. Next stop?? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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shafting continues ...  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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G4S----Gone 4 Sure Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Fyatu wrote:tweroff bob has printed. Next stop?? Trading in uncharted territory. Wait for it to settle before touching. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 539 Location: Nakuru
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sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:tweroff bob has printed. Next stop?? Trading in uncharted territory. Wait for it to settle before touching. Do we go in? For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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winmak wrote:sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:tweroff bob has printed. Next stop?? Trading in uncharted territory. Wait for it to settle before touching. Do we go in? At a very high risk. I learnt a valuable lesson from Atlas Africa industries that buying cheap is not buyin value. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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Fyatu wrote:winmak wrote:sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:tweroff bob has printed. Next stop?? Trading in uncharted territory. Wait for it to settle before touching. Do we go in? At a very high risk. I learnt a valuable lesson from Atlas Africa industries that buying cheap is not buyin value. Homeafrica comes to mind. @15 bob without info you would have thought it was a steal. Only to see sub bob come with full ompetus not to leave a bob. Its better to know someone trapped and with the know, has their stop loss blaring red like hell firestations and disperate to exit. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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muandiwambeu wrote:Juojo wrote:[quote=muandiwambeu][quote=Ericsson]The conversion price for the ARM shares was 40.
And vvs you were a fan of ARM.
And you would have trusted cdc to do due deligence for you. Narrow shave. Karibu niruke ndani with all my eggs. Just lucky an inner voice kept me behind the schedule. This counter looked like the last bus remaining on the stage for the just ended mini bull rally. Time for the bulls to exit the stage and welcome the bears on the drivers seat. and the seniors are just rubber stamping the garbage collected. You should hear the questions they ask  : Trust your own due diligence.When you are too busy for it,then dont shed tears when you loose your money. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Juojo wrote:[quote=muandiwambeu][quote=Ericsson]The conversion price for the ARM shares was 40.
And vvs you were a fan of ARM.
And you would have trusted cdc to do due deligence for you. Narrow shave. Karibu niruke ndani with all my eggs. Just lucky an inner voice kept me behind the schedule. This counter looked like the last bus remaining on the stage for the just ended mini bull rally. Time for the bulls to exit the stage and welcome the bears on the drivers seat. and the seniors are just rubber stamping the garbage collected. You should hear the questions they ask : Trust your own due diligence.When you are too busy for it,then dont shed tears when you loose your money. Jeering @vvs is not a man like thing to do.. People like @stocksmaster @guru and even myself have been wrong on some counters.. It's a free market and research should be personal unless kama kuna mtu alikuleta Nairobi, huyo pekee ndio anaweza kukunungunuzia which stock to buy or sell
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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http://www.businessdaily...07166-14xur7i/index.htmlWealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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winmak wrote:sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:tweroff bob has printed. Next stop?? Trading in uncharted territory. Wait for it to settle before touching. Do we go in? Watch the charts aka cartoons. No need to rush catch a falling knife. @Karasinga tafadhali start coverage. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ebenyo wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Juojo wrote:[quote=muandiwambeu][quote=Ericsson]The conversion price for the ARM shares was 40.
And vvs you were a fan of ARM.
And you would have trusted cdc to do due deligence for you. Narrow shave. Karibu niruke ndani with all my eggs. Just lucky an inner voice kept me behind the schedule. This counter looked like the last bus remaining on the stage for the just ended mini bull rally. Time for the bulls to exit the stage and welcome the bears on the drivers seat. and the seniors are just rubber stamping the garbage collected. You should hear the questions they ask : Trust your own due diligence.When you are too busy for it,then dont shed tears when you loose your money. CDC have unlimited time horizon to recover their investment unlike you and me who want a return in our lifetime. Life is short. Live passionately.
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