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BREAKING NEWS......Kadhis Courts are illegal
ibsi
#141 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:05:12 PM
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Sultans were no different from British or other colonialists from the West. Let us manage our affairs as Kenyans but not to go back to historical injustices committed by Arabs and their counterparts from Europe.

Kenya is one and let those who now live in Kenya speak in one voice not going back and forth about religion, tribe or race. If you are a person from Coast dont say that Islam is supperior in that region. Remember that all major religions in Kenya and the World over are all imported ones. We better recognise our indegenous courts than sneek in foreign religions to our constitution. The Kenyan Coast or mainland was devoid of religions sectarianism before the coming of Islam, Christianity and other religions. By the way Sultans just as colonial Britons were Exploiters and Suppressers.
Trust in God and endure patiently.
masukuma
#142 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:28:38 PM
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Well put @ibsi...well said. Lets live in a nation whose governance is devoid of religion.
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theman192000
#143 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:32:28 PM
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ibsi wrote:
This all attests why this constitution making is flawed. Islam is supposedly a peaceful religion but statistics of the acts of atrocities comitted by its members are tatally the opposite. This doesnt mean that Xtians have never waged serious crimes but the difference is that muslims do it in the name of God whereas Xtians or other non-xtians do it on their own.


@ ibsi , you might want to rethink that statement. See below.

The Crusades were a series of religiously sanctioned military campaigns waged by much of Latin Christian Europe, particularly the Franks of France and the Holy Roman Empire. The specific crusades to restore Christian control of the Holy Land were fought over a period of nearly 200 years, between 1095 and 1291. Other campaigns in Spain and Eastern Europe continued into the 15th century. The Crusades were fought mainly by Roman Catholic forces (taking place after the East-West Schism and mostly before the Protestant Reformation) against Muslims who had occupied the near east since the time of the Rashidun Caliphate, although campaigns were also waged against pagan Slavs, pagan Balts, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and political enemies of the various popes
masukuma
#144 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:52:56 PM
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@theman192000,
in this century
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theman192000
#145 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:04:48 PM
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@ masukuma, I'm willing to bet if I post something showing atrocities committed by Christians in God's name in this century, you will say, this year, then, this month, then probably, in Kenya, in Nairobi, by someone I know, etc.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#146 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:09:06 PM
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@All

I think the even bigger impact of this ruling is that its socially unenforceable. Were it to be implemented, it would lead to chaos, then a political settlement at best, leading us back to where we are now.

Lets vote in the new constitution and get rid of this 3 jokers.

I actually sleep soundly in the knowledge that those 3 jokers have 3 votes and no jobs after they cast them.
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masukuma
#147 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:23:55 PM
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Amos wako running to the Court of appeal has given this ruling teeth that cannot be just declared as academic. @Obi, don't wet your pants and you are in your own country. What Chaos?
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sky5
#148 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:30:09 PM
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The High Court ruling may not have an immediate impact on the pending referendum because the case refers mostly to the pre-2005 referendum period.

So let's wait for the referendum and vote. Since attempts for win-win vote failed long time, there will be a win-lose scenario.
nanfor1
#149 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:32:50 PM
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even kivuitu now walks the streets of Nairobi alone. Hata hawa wataenda the same route. They can now boast to their kids...when I was a judge I changed the constitution.
Hata wakizima taa
Obi 1 Kanobi
#150 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:36:37 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Amos wako running to the Court of appeal has given this ruling teeth that cannot be just declared as academic. @Obi, don't wet your pants and you are in your own country. What Chaos?


@Masukuma, I try to avoid conversing with you because you are very obtuse and never bother to shift your position so you can take a better (alternative) look at anything.

The AG has to challenge this ruling because we must have responsible systems to prepare for its impact if the draft constitution fails to go through.

The muslim faithful will certainly view this ruling as a direct challange on their way of life and will never accept it, but I know you think otherwise.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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