wazua Fri, Jan 10, 2025
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In | Register

Who are our ancestors?
tycho
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:58:03 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
When do a people, be?

Who are the ancestors of a people?
Swenani
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 4:04:12 PM
Rank: User


Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
tycho wrote:
When do a people, be?

Who are the ancestors of a people?


I'll speak for my self, My ancestor is my great great grandfather.....RIP Snr Swenani, Chief fishmonger and ruler of house Swenani.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:55:26 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
When do a people, be?

Who are the ancestors of a people?


I'll speak for my self, My ancestor is my great great grandfather.....RIP Snr Swenani, Chief fishmonger and ruler of house Swenani.


And would the great great grandfather of your great great grandfather also be your ancestor?

What happens to the 'ancestor' definition the further back you go in time? Or rather, is there a limit of how far back one can go?
murchr
#4 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 2:54:52 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
murchr
#5 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 2:57:21 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
majimaji
#6 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 10:21:20 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2007
Posts: 1,162
murchr wrote:



It is true. The Bantu farmers have been moving and displacing the hunter gather tribes that were the earlier inhabitants of much of sub equatorial Africa for over 1000 years. The Dorobo were actually not a community as such but bands of hunter gathers who were called Ogiek/Dorobo by their more advanced farming neighbours (Bantu- Maasai etc).
The Dorobo/pygmies etc got assimilated by Bantu farmers and were pushed further into forests, only few hunter gatherers remain such as the guys who live in Boni forest (Wa-saanya) who speak a language strange to Bantu ears.
As a matter of fact, most of Central province place names have no meaning in the Gikuyu as spoken today, meaning other 'tribes' named them.
For bed time reading:Guns, Steel and Germs, J Diamond, 1997. Read the chapter How Africa became Black on how Bantus colonised sub-saharan Africa.
tycho
#7 Posted : Saturday, September 02, 2017 7:18:33 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
majimaji wrote:
murchr wrote:



It is true. The Bantu farmers have been moving and displacing the hunter gather tribes that were the earlier inhabitants of much of sub equatorial Africa for over 1000 years. The Dorobo were actually not a community as such but bands of hunter gathers who were called Ogiek/Dorobo by their more advanced farming neighbours (Bantu- Maasai etc).
The Dorobo/pygmies etc got assimilated by Bantu farmers and were pushed further into forests, only few hunter gatherers remain such as the guys who live in Boni forest (Wa-saanya) who speak a language strange to Bantu ears.
As a matter of fact, most of Central province place names have no meaning in the Gikuyu as spoken today, meaning other 'tribes' named them.
For bed time reading:Guns, Steel and Germs, J Diamond, 1997. Read the chapter How Africa became Black on how Bantus colonised sub-saharan Africa.


The more I think about it, the more I wonder whether we're who we think and/or are told we are. What are the dynamics of making and writing history?

No doubt, when creating knowledge, we exclude other forms of knowledge. But could that also mean that creating knowledge may also entail creating identities?

And if identities are created, when and how were our identities created?
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2025 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.