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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
Shak
#821 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:54:30 PM
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2012 wrote:
[quote=washiku]PLO in hot soup

https://www.standardmedi...ural-home-after-threats[/quote]

With this kind of primitive behaviour, isn't Kenya lucky that UK won? The poor man is not even representing Uhuru.

He is not, but he is defending his win and this is just as bad in their eyes
madollar
#822 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:02:52 PM
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Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Well balanced opinion piece!
Quote:

The Supreme Court’s registrar assembled a team of experts to physically examine the 34A and B forms that the electoral commission claimed to have used to arrive at the final results. According to their analysis, nearly a third of the forms have irregularities: some are blank, some are signed in the same handwriting, some come from polling stations that didn’t officially exist, some show results that differed from the totals on the copies of the form in NASA’s possession and from the totals announced by the electoral commission, and thousands lack official stamps, signatures, and watermarks. When the Supreme Court-appointed team examined the logs of the electoral commission’s server, it found that numerous unauthorized users had entered the system before and after the election, that the electoral commission chairman had uploaded and removed 34A forms, and that some polling center results had been added before the election had actually occurred.

Despite the growing evidence that the election was a fraud, Kenya’s notoriously corrupt judiciary may dismiss the case. When Odinga disputed Kenyatta’s victory after a similarly flawed election in 2013, the justices ruled that the election should stand, even though results from much of the country are not available even now, and probably never will be.
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A far more troubling possibility is that the US wants Kenyatta to remain in power, at the expense of democracy. Kenya lies in one of the most volatile regions of the world. Its neighbor Somalia has been a war zone for a decade; conflict in South Sudan has sent more than two million refugees scrambling to neighboring countries, including Kenya, since 2013. Two of Kenya’s other neighbors, Uganda and Ethiopia, are ruled by US-backed autocrats who have instigated or worsened these conflicts. Ethiopia’s US-assisted invasion of Somalia in 2006 set off the mayhem there, promoting the rise of the Islamist terrorist group Al-Shabaab. In 2014, Uganda entered the South Sudan civil war on the government’s side. Humanitarian organizations called for an arms embargo, which would have made Uganda’s involvement illegal. The UN Security Council, including Russia and China, seemed open to an embargo, but the Obama did not pursue it.

Kenyatta, a drowsy-looking bon vivant and the son of Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya’s first post-independence president, is supported by a powerful network of Kenyan politicians and businessmen, mostly of Kikuyu ethnicity, who have been looting the country for decades. He has aligned Kenya with US policy by, for example, deploying Kenyan forces in AMISOM, the US- and UK-supported African Union peacekeeping mission in Somalia.

Odinga, a taciturn, ambitious seventy-two-year-old of Luo ethnicity, whose father was Jomo Kenyatta’s post-independence vice-president and later his rival, has long nursed a grudge against Kenyatta’s Kikuyu elite. He spent ten years in jail for participating in a failed coup against Jomo Kenyatta’s hand-picked successor, Daniel Arap Moi, in 1982 and he fought vigorously for Kenya’s progressive 2010 Constitution which weakened Kenya’s formerly all- powerful presidency and made local officials more accountable to their people.




Ni kirudiwo.


Looks like Salim lone alisub contract Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly the pay had to be justifed before he takes off.

Kenya: The Election & the Cover-Up
Helen Epstein


From below lazima wanajuana.Same website.

When Mothers Neglect Children
Salim Lone, reply by Helen Epstein
kayhara
#823 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:08:20 PM
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Shak wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
My verdict... no overturning of the Election results... the people have spoken and spoken clearly. Likely inquiry on IEBC's jua kali-ness on some matters. That whole hosting of the servers abroad was a dual edged knife - supposed to make you seem credible but makes you look incompetent! I suspect someone will be censured on that angle.


That is what I am hoping but these days I like to keep my mind open to all possibilities. It is not over until it is over. Even as the lawyers were making their legal arguments it was not lost on me that there was a lot ego massaging of the judges. After being called "My Lords" so many times I fear that it is possible that some may want to believe that they are indeed Lords.

I am beginning to have some trepidation about the effect of that IT report. It would be a very easy case to make that IEBC is hiding something. A unanimous decision seals the election for good but a majority decision say by a vote of 4 to 3 to uphold the election would leave some embers that can be stoked into a roaring fire by a disgruntled loser.


I am anxious to hear how this goes. I want it to end on Friday but i am preparing myself for whatever happens.

A puritan Supreme Court can be very dangerous.

A ruling that is favourable to the petitioner will be very dangerous for future elections

It simply means that in future, a side that knows it's losing will simply ensure forms in strongholds are not signed or something else and hence buying him time in the rerun


Perhaps we may need to look at it from ODM/CORD/NASA (or whatever they choose to call themselves next week). They are a force (not as big as they thought - but still big) - how do you communicate to their adherents the frame of mind that
1) institutions work
2) when they don't - there is recourse in the law
that they don't have to see the courts as "channels created by their 'oppressors'"! How do you do that fairly? in front of the supreme court lies a case that Kenyans overwhelmingly voted for one candidate - that is of no doubt to any one.... even Ekuru alisema hiyo. The question is on the mechanics of the 300k plus people who were running it. mambo ya kukosa seals... stamps... signatures for people who have been working for days on end under tough and charged political environment. The petitioner has not shown that they have been prejudiced by these events - they are just saying... it was not carried out as expected. Oh Rejected votes are not matching... between the RTS and the forms. So back to my point, the Supreme court has to uphold the election but at the same time find a way of making sure that these "de minus" issues don't repreat themselves in future elections. During the last election, they acted on the procurement of things and we saw heads rolling and this time around there are no complaints on "failed" systems and procurement. Will this be enough for NASA? unlikely, i think the largest bone they can throw at NASA is a recount or retally! Not Voting again since no one has complained about the voting process.

My fear about a possible recount is that a new circus will arise where NASA will claim that ballot boxes have been tampered with by IEBC therefore they don't trust what will result from it

with the reports of presidential ballot boxes found everywhere from bushes to hotel rooms, the reports of IEBC employees tampering with warehouses where the boxes are, I think a recount will just bring up more issues, lets recycle the ballots to wrap njugu and make tissue paper,or where o they take the papers?
To Each His Own
ngapat
#824 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:09:48 PM
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PETITIONERS’ REPORT FROM ICT ACCESS/AUDIT REPORT
How true is this
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2012
#825 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:27:10 PM
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The comments on social media by ODM supporters are very interesting. They are all about how Muite, Grand Mulla, PLO and Ngatia made glaring errors while Orengo was a perfect. I have been left wondering, shouldn't they be celebrating because of the errors as this would lead to an automatic win instead of getting annoyed at the errors? Mimi sielewi watu.

BBI will solve it
:)
Ngalaka
#826 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:30:45 PM
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Circus mingi not useful.

Just bear in mind that this is a partisan party's opinion.

The main voting bit was carried out manually and forms 34A 34B and 34C filled in manually, Can we restrict the tally to those hard-copies.

There was also a requirement that in the event of a conflict between the scanned copies and the hard copies, the latter takes precedent.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
murchr
#827 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:38:33 PM
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This is what Orengo tried to slip but was stopped. It says nothing really. Failed attempts to log in are common, how many times do we forget passwords or mistype them? The penetration test is what matters and I understand it came out clean.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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ngapat
#828 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:41:00 PM
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IEBC FileZilla Server (FTP server) - Report

Any IT guy here for opinion on these logs.

Do these logs demonstrate contrary to the original Form 34As or Bs?
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Intelligentsia
#829 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:48:25 PM
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murchr wrote:


This is what Orengo tried to slip but was stopped. It says nothing really. Failed attempts to log in are common, how many times do we forget passwords or mistype them? The penetration test is what matters and I understand it came out clean.


What about all those so many unauthorised users logging into the system? As claimed by the court-appointed ICT experts?
PENETRATION TEST: Leo's subSTANDARD is saying the court appointed experts where not given the penetration tests, or was this later?
ngapat
#830 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:08:31 PM
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ICT COURT EXPERTS REPORT AS FILED BY THE REGISTRAR


SCRUTINY REPORT AS FILED BY THE REGISTRAR
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