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kaka2za wrote:Though the petition may be dismissed,I expect the ruling to be castigate IEBC on processes.
The problem is that IEBC is poorly funded and same problems will recur even if the election is repeated ten times. Kes. 45 Billion is a poor funding...my Lords. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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masukuma wrote:My verdict... no overturning of the Election results... the people have spoken and spoken clearly. Likely inquiry on IEBC's jua kali-ness on some matters. That whole hosting of the servers abroad was a dual edged knife - supposed to make you seem credible but makes you look incompetent! I suspect someone will be censured on that angle. It was interesting that no one knew where the servers were until muite said they aren't in the country. remember the 2013 fiasco where TNA had their server hosted by the same company? If that were to have happen this time,we would be singing eric wainaina's songs by now.
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[quote=washiku]PLO in hot soup https://www.standardmedi...ural-home-after-threats[/quote] Hii ni Ujinga The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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For those interested in research, social media discussions on Kenya's 2017 presidential elections are a good study on "Confirmation Bias".
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Bigchick wrote:Liv wrote:Ngalaka wrote:limanika wrote:Just imagine,
Maringo produces server logs on national TV as evidence of hacking - Only to come out that the print-out itself was as fake as they come
Maringo says on national TV- Court is not an option. Then he becomes the main lawyer for the petitioner
Maringo says...We only need to look at those servers, this is the one thing that will establish we have a case...Not sure what he said after looking the servers
Maringo evolves through the case...initially he made everybody believe there was hacking...He thought IEBC will never give access....when finally IEBC gives access, he can only see smoke, the case collapses...he brings new evidence last minute
In other words he has fumbled through this matter from day 1, watering down all the respect he's built over the years, I wonder what was his motivation? When Raila says jump, Orengo hits the clouds. Did you also talk of respect stemming from principle; Orengo stopped being his own man when he realised that for him to contest and win any political office in Siaya, he had to kow tow to Raila, then he chose eating humble pie to sticking to his principles. And it has paid off, he never has to campaign, even when the electorate are not too keen on him Raila ensures that he sails through to be used as became clear in the last couple of Months. Has it ever occurred to you that Orengo could be interested in taking over the leadership of the Luo nation if Raila retires from politics ....if that ever happened? ....but can he?
Yes he could if it had happened earlier when he still had our respect.But after this petition I think he exposed himself and we now know the kind of person he is.Infact he is being blamed for being behind babus failures.He has been lying to him. It will tale time for me to get over the presentation he made the last day using his own report.That was gross and made him look very thuggish. Are you joining those people blaming lawyers for representing clients? Even if it was a criminal case in which somebody killed and there is proof, they deserve representation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Kusadikika wrote:masukuma wrote:My verdict... no overturning of the Election results... the people have spoken and spoken clearly. Likely inquiry on IEBC's jua kali-ness on some matters. That whole hosting of the servers abroad was a dual edged knife - supposed to make you seem credible but makes you look incompetent! I suspect someone will be censured on that angle. That is what I am hoping but these days I like to keep my mind open to all possibilities. It is not over until it is over. Even as the lawyers were making their legal arguments it was not lost on me that there was a lot ego massaging of the judges. After being called "My Lords" so many times I fear that it is possible that some may want to believe that they are indeed Lords. I am beginning to have some trepidation about the effect of that IT report. It would be a very easy case to make that IEBC is hiding something. A unanimous decision seals the election for good but a majority decision say by a vote of 4 to 3 to uphold the election would leave some embers that can be stoked into a roaring fire by a disgruntled loser. I am anxious to hear how this goes. I want it to end on Friday but i am preparing myself for whatever happens. A puritan Supreme Court can be very dangerous. A ruling that is favourable to the petitioner will be very dangerous for future elections It simply means that in future, a side that knows it's losing will simply ensure forms in strongholds are not signed or something else and hence buying him time in the rerun
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[quote=washiku]PLO in hot soup https://www.standardmedi...ural-home-after-threats[/quote] Primitive energy,uncivilized goons. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Lolest! wrote:Bigchick wrote:Liv wrote:Ngalaka wrote:limanika wrote:Just imagine,
Maringo produces server logs on national TV as evidence of hacking - Only to come out that the print-out itself was as fake as they come
Maringo says on national TV- Court is not an option. Then he becomes the main lawyer for the petitioner
Maringo says...We only need to look at those servers, this is the one thing that will establish we have a case...Not sure what he said after looking the servers
Maringo evolves through the case...initially he made everybody believe there was hacking...He thought IEBC will never give access....when finally IEBC gives access, he can only see smoke, the case collapses...he brings new evidence last minute
In other words he has fumbled through this matter from day 1, watering down all the respect he's built over the years, I wonder what was his motivation? When Raila says jump, Orengo hits the clouds. Did you also talk of respect stemming from principle; Orengo stopped being his own man when he realised that for him to contest and win any political office in Siaya, he had to kow tow to Raila, then he chose eating humble pie to sticking to his principles. And it has paid off, he never has to campaign, even when the electorate are not too keen on him Raila ensures that he sails through to be used as became clear in the last couple of Months. Has it ever occurred to you that Orengo could be interested in taking over the leadership of the Luo nation if Raila retires from politics ....if that ever happened? ....but can he?
Yes he could if it had happened earlier when he still had our respect.But after this petition I think he exposed himself and we now know the kind of person he is.Infact he is being blamed for being behind babus failures.He has been lying to him. It will tale time for me to get over the presentation he made the last day using his own report.That was gross and made him look very thuggish. Are you joining those people blaming lawyers for representing clients? Even if it was a criminal case in which somebody killed and there is proof, they deserve representation Representing a client is not wrong but the lies he brought fourth and the melodrama he was trying exposed him as a serial conman. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Am sure nobody would think of threatening Paul Mwangi or David Ndii yet we know their homes. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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