Baratang wrote:tycho wrote:1. Mathematics isn't science. What is it?
2. Science without mathematics is not science.
The failure to understand what mathematics exactly is, is the biggest problem of our civilization. In the Copernican revolution mathematics was aligned with science, and since then it has been treated like a science, and hence has also been constrained.
By constraining mathematics, world order has constrained itself, and in that respect, our current civilization is decadedent.
If we go backwards in history, we find mathematics as the 'word of God' or 'Maat'.
Maat was lost. How Maat was lost is simple; the meaning of its symbolism was taken for granted and was lost because by its futuristic and far seeing nature, the secular use of Maat could generate surpluses. And power, being an object that many want could easily slip to those who were oblivious of Maat.
Note how the Babylonians/ Sumerians in fact, excelled at looking at the stars while building sophisticated mathematical systems.