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Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/30/2014 Posts: 86 Location: nairobi
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shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c Africa's projected population in 2050 will be 2.5 Billion and by that time there will by skycrapper apartments in Karen...and Nakuru & Naivasha. They the rich will have to learn to live with everyone else.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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kawi254 wrote:lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c Africa's projected population in 2050 will be 2.5 Billion and by that time there will by skycrapper apartments in Karen...and Nakuru & Naivasha. They the rich will have to learn to live with everyone else. Confirm which type of population hustlers or a huge middle class Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? When people started subdividing their 5-acre plots into 1-acres and later into halves, the luster of Karen faded and those who value green suburbia moved out. It has nothing to do with race. It's just a question of your definition of "peaceful environment" Same has happened in Kilimani, Kileleshwa and Lavington. Muthaiga is still holding out but only time will tell.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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BTW: This reminds me of the case of Java waiters reluctance to serve black customers. Many saw it as racism but it was simply because whites give higher tips than blacks. My cousin worked there and she confirmed it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,516 Location: nairobi
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chiaroscuro wrote:BTW: This reminds me of the case of Java waiters reluctance to serve black customers. Many saw it as racism but it was simply because whites give higher tips than blacks. My cousin worked there and she confirmed it. It's a sad world we live in
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/16/2017 Posts: 20
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chiaroscuro wrote:BTW: This reminds me of the case of Java waiters reluctance to serve black customers. Many saw it as racism but it was simply because whites give higher tips than blacks. My cousin worked there and she confirmed it. It is racism. You can't assume everyone will give you lower tips or higher tips just because of their color. Nkt
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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Jon_Gray wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:BTW: This reminds me of the case of Java waiters reluctance to serve black customers. Many saw it as racism but it was simply because whites give higher tips than blacks. My cousin worked there and she confirmed it. It is racism. You can't assume everyone will give you lower tips or higher tips just because of their color. Nkt Nkt to you too  . It is classification based on averages and even you are constantly doing it. You do not go through dark tunnels even though that day there may be no thugs hanging about.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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chiaroscuro wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? When people started subdividing their 5-acre plots into 1-acres and later into halves, the luster of Karen faded and those who value green suburbia moved out. It has nothing to do with race. It's just a question of your definition of "peaceful environment" Same has happened in Kilimani, Kileleshwa and Lavington. Muthaiga is still holding out but only time will tell. Most of the original 4,600 Karen estate is still owned by the mzungus particularly upper Karen. Lower Karen or what we used to call Langata/Karengata back in the day and the plains area are now where the muafrika reside in their 0.5 acre plots . Ofcourse we have people like the Kiereini who managed to get 20 acres(yes the original subdivision of Karen estate was 20 and 10 acre plots). Areas like Hardy are still white dominated and a casual drive there and you think you are in Nanyuki or Greenpark in Naivasha. Jana i stopped by Purdy Arms on Marula Lane,Off Karen road with my better quarter and we were the only Africans  @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c I have one good example a tenderprenuer landed some serious money, decided to upgrade from eastlands to Muthaiga he got blocked by the residents association there because of BECAUSE, he headed fro karen got 1 acre with mature trees and several mzungu neighbours enjoying the forest like environment, okay the problem started when the guy decide to build his mansion he forgot that karen is good because of the trees, he decided to chop up the whole one acre clear every plant, then get an architect to design the mansion, I refused, the mzungus tried going to NCC, NEMA etc but they didn't succeed in stopping the destruction of trees upto 100 years old, so they decided to leave the guy now ives in a stupendous mansion with a cabro paved yard a full acre of cabro paved with car shades instead of trees, he is lonely because all his neighbor moved and left their land to overgrow, the poor guy is planning to move into an apartment for security fears due to the isolation To Each His Own
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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kayhara wrote:lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c I have one good example a tenderprenuer landed some serious money, decided to upgrade from eastlands to Muthaiga he got blocked by the residents association there because of BECAUSE, he headed fro karen got 1 acre with mature trees and several mzungu neighbours enjoying the forest like environment, okay the problem started when the guy decide to build his mansion he forgot that karen is good because of the trees, he decided to chop up the whole one acre clear every plant, then get an architect to design the mansion, I refused, the mzungus tried going to NCC, NEMA etc but they didn't succeed in stopping the destruction of trees upto 100 years old, so they decided to leave the guy now ives in a stupendous mansion with a cabro paved yard a full acre of cabro paved with car shades instead of trees, he is lonely because all his neighbor moved and left their land to overgrow, the poor guy is planning to move into an apartment for security fears due to the isolation  Damn!! There goes the neighborhood. The few things that money can't buy-Class
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wukan wrote:kayhara wrote:lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c I have one good example a tenderprenuer landed some serious money, decided to upgrade from eastlands to Muthaiga he got blocked by the residents association there because of BECAUSE, he headed fro karen got 1 acre with mature trees and several mzungu neighbours enjoying the forest like environment, okay the problem started when the guy decide to build his mansion he forgot that karen is good because of the trees, he decided to chop up the whole one acre clear every plant, then get an architect to design the mansion, I refused, the mzungus tried going to NCC, NEMA etc but they didn't succeed in stopping the destruction of trees upto 100 years old, so they decided to leave the guy now ives in a stupendous mansion with a cabro paved yard a full acre of cabro paved with car shades instead of trees, he is lonely because all his neighbor moved and left their land to overgrow, the poor guy is planning to move into an apartment for security fears due to the isolation Damn!! There goes the neighborhood. The few things that money can't buy-Class Hilarious In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/16/2017 Posts: 20
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kayhara wrote:lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c I have one good example a tenderprenuer landed some serious money, decided to upgrade from eastlands to Muthaiga he got blocked by the residents association there because of BECAUSE, he headed fro karen got 1 acre with mature trees and several mzungu neighbours enjoying the forest like environment, okay the problem started when the guy decide to build his mansion he forgot that karen is good because of the trees, he decided to chop up the whole one acre clear every plant, then get an architect to design the mansion, I refused, the mzungus tried going to NCC, NEMA etc but they didn't succeed in stopping the destruction of trees upto 100 years old, so they decided to leave the guy now ives in a stupendous mansion with a cabro paved yard a full acre of cabro paved with car shades instead of trees, he is lonely because all his neighbor moved and left their land to overgrow, the poor guy is planning to move into an apartment for security fears due to the isolation Too mbad. If you are going to to move in an area, why destroy what makes it different? But this raises a different point. Does the absence of this constituency devalue the area (because not all people going there are cutting trees)?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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If you go to Rome do what the Romans like;if they like trees don't chop all of them recklessly. the guy forgot what is called good neighbourhood Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? "Others" really don't appreciate well planned living zones and the neighbourhood effect that it brings. Quote:The Karen and Lang’ata District Residents’ Association has accused Nakuru nominated MCA Alice Ndegwa of illegally putting up hostels in the area.
Zoning rules in the area do not allow multiple-storey buildings. The site is near the Lang’ata South Road, 300 metres from the Nairobi Academy. A resident said, “She is targetting students from the Catholic University of Easten Africa and Tangaza College. These hostels will crowd the area and destroy the serene environment.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,516 Location: nairobi
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wukan wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? "Others" really don't appreciate well planned living zones and the neighbourhood effect that it brings. Quote:The Karen and Lang’ata District Residents’ Association has accused Nakuru nominated MCA Alice Ndegwa of illegally putting up hostels in the area.
Zoning rules in the area do not allow multiple-storey buildings. The site is near the Lang’ata South Road, 300 metres from the Nairobi Academy. A resident said, “She is targetting students from the Catholic University of Easten Africa and Tangaza College. These hostels will crowd the area and destroy the serene environment.” . It's good to respect zoning laws.. Why wouldn't Alice settle for two stories instead of multiple.. The way we do things in Kenya shows impunity thrives
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,516 Location: nairobi
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wukan wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? "Others" really don't appreciate well planned living zones and the neighbourhood effect that it brings. Quote:The Karen and Lang’ata District Residents’ Association has accused Nakuru nominated MCA Alice Ndegwa of illegally putting up hostels in the area.
Zoning rules in the area do not allow multiple-storey buildings. The site is near the Lang’ata South Road, 300 metres from the Nairobi Academy. A resident said, “She is targetting students from the Catholic University of Easten Africa and Tangaza College. These hostels will crowd the area and destroy the serene environment.” . It's good to respect zoning laws.. Why wouldn't Alice settle for two stories instead of multiple.. The way we do things in Kenya shows impunity thrives
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:wukan wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? "Others" really don't appreciate well planned living zones and the neighbourhood effect that it brings. Quote:The Karen and Lang’ata District Residents’ Association has accused Nakuru nominated MCA Alice Ndegwa of illegally putting up hostels in the area.
Zoning rules in the area do not allow multiple-storey buildings. The site is near the Lang’ata South Road, 300 metres from the Nairobi Academy. A resident said, “She is targetting students from the Catholic University of Easten Africa and Tangaza College. These hostels will crowd the area and destroy the serene environment.” . It's good to respect zoning laws.. Why wouldn't Alice settle for two stories instead of multiple.. The way we do things in Kenya shows impunity thrives Greed will kill this country Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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kayhara wrote:lochaes wrote:shanoka wrote:Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go? walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c I have one good example a tenderprenuer landed some serious money, decided to upgrade from eastlands to Muthaiga he got blocked by the residents association there because of BECAUSE, he headed fro karen got 1 acre with mature trees and several mzungu neighbours enjoying the forest like environment, okay the problem started when the guy decide to build his mansion he forgot that karen is good because of the trees, he decided to chop up the whole one acre clear every plant, then get an architect to design the mansion, I refused, the mzungus tried going to NCC, NEMA etc but they didn't succeed in stopping the destruction of trees upto 100 years old, so they decided to leave the guy now ives in a stupendous mansion with a cabro paved yard a full acre of cabro paved with car shades instead of trees, he is lonely because all his neighbor moved and left their land to overgrow, the poor guy is planning to move into an apartment for security fears due to the isolation If there's one thing I hate it's this chopping down of trees in the suburbs by newly rich guys. Greenery is the biggest distinguishing feature of Nairobi's suburbs. If someone wants to chop down trees aende Mombasa Road kujenga. It's even cheaper to leave the trees alone, so cutting them is a sign that someone is just classless beyond redemption
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