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Humans were/are created
tycho
#1 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 9:41:26 AM
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All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.
hardwood
#2 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 9:58:26 AM
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tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?
tycho
#3 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:12:14 AM
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hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.
Much Know
#4 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:49:58 AM
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One thing i know is evolution as sold is on it's death bed, won't give it more than three years before some scientist abandon it, especially for system theorist, cognitive scientist and many social scientist who really understand the human mind as well as physics, math and communications theory e.t.c some other theory is needed it is 'suddenly' failing in too many areas, too many to bother naming, siku hizi evolution ni ya wajinga!.
Ras Kienyeji Man
hardwood
#5 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:54:29 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?
tycho
#6 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:59:21 AM
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Much Know wrote:
One thing i know is evolution as sold is on it's death bed, won't give it more than three years before some scientist abandon it, especially for system theorist, cognitive scientist and many social scientist who really understand the human mind as well as physics, math and communications theory e.t.c some other theory is needed it is 'suddenly' failing in too many areas, too many to bother naming, siku hizi evolution ni ya wajinga!.


I agree with you on this.
tycho
#7 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:01:44 AM
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hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?


Lions don't and can't think. The most they can do is reason!

Other species don't have knowledge. Only information and accompanying mind algorithms.
hardwood
#8 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:11:01 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?


Lions don't and can't think. The most they can do is reason!

Other species don't have knowledge. Only information and accompanying mind algorithms.


What's the difference between thinking and reasoning?

rea·son·ing
ˈrēz(ə)niNG/
noun
the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.
hardwood
#9 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:14:03 AM
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Scientists think that animals think

http://news.harvard.edu/...hink-that-animals-think/
tycho
#10 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:21:31 AM
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hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?


Lions don't and can't think. The most they can do is reason!

Other species don't have knowledge. Only information and accompanying mind algorithms.


What's the difference between thinking and reasoning?

rea·son·ing
ˈrēz(ə)niNG/
noun
the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.


1. Dictionary meanings are about how words are used not meaning in essence.

2. Reasoning entails relating bits of information, sometimes to generate new information and behaviors. But the process doesn't need to involve self consciousness for example.

3. Thinking on the other hand goes beyond reasoning in that it involves more than the mind, into systemically situated self and creates and maintains knowledge.

Imagine: If lions could think then they could realize that hunting grounds are shrinking and therefore, develop ranches...
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