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tycho
#1 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 9:41:26 AM
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All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.
hardwood
#2 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 9:58:26 AM
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tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?
tycho
#3 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:12:14 AM
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hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.
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#4 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:49:58 AM
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One thing i know is evolution as sold is on it's death bed, won't give it more than three years before some scientist abandon it, especially for system theorist, cognitive scientist and many social scientist who really understand the human mind as well as physics, math and communications theory e.t.c some other theory is needed it is 'suddenly' failing in too many areas, too many to bother naming, siku hizi evolution ni ya wajinga!.
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#5 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:54:29 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?
tycho
#6 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 10:59:21 AM
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Much Know wrote:
One thing i know is evolution as sold is on it's death bed, won't give it more than three years before some scientist abandon it, especially for system theorist, cognitive scientist and many social scientist who really understand the human mind as well as physics, math and communications theory e.t.c some other theory is needed it is 'suddenly' failing in too many areas, too many to bother naming, siku hizi evolution ni ya wajinga!.


I agree with you on this.
tycho
#7 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:01:44 AM
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hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?


Lions don't and can't think. The most they can do is reason!

Other species don't have knowledge. Only information and accompanying mind algorithms.
hardwood
#8 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:11:01 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?


Lions don't and can't think. The most they can do is reason!

Other species don't have knowledge. Only information and accompanying mind algorithms.


What's the difference between thinking and reasoning?

rea·son·ing
ˈrēz(ə)niNG/
noun
the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.
hardwood
#9 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:14:03 AM
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Scientists think that animals think

http://news.harvard.edu/...hink-that-animals-think/
tycho
#10 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:21:31 AM
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hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


Do other species think? For instance do lions think when they are hunting?


Lions don't and can't think. The most they can do is reason!

Other species don't have knowledge. Only information and accompanying mind algorithms.


What's the difference between thinking and reasoning?

rea·son·ing
ˈrēz(ə)niNG/
noun
the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.


1. Dictionary meanings are about how words are used not meaning in essence.

2. Reasoning entails relating bits of information, sometimes to generate new information and behaviors. But the process doesn't need to involve self consciousness for example.

3. Thinking on the other hand goes beyond reasoning in that it involves more than the mind, into systemically situated self and creates and maintains knowledge.

Imagine: If lions could think then they could realize that hunting grounds are shrinking and therefore, develop ranches...
tycho
#11 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:25:57 AM
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[quote=hardwood]Scientists think that animals think

http://news.harvard.edu/...ink-that-animals-think/[/quote]

Some conclusions by scientists are wrong!
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#12 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:38:25 AM
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[quote=hardwood]Scientists think that animals think

http://news.harvard.edu/...ink-that-animals-think/[/quote]

Ujinga tupu!, i will respond but it will need quite some detail, however on the same issue of evolution and Harvard junk and stupidity, as recently as 1962, published a followup book by a very racist thinker caller Carleton S. Coon, Called 'The Origins Of the Races", google it! a scientist professor from Harvard is one of the most stupid people ever recorded on earth. Better listen to a Prof from KEMU or 'The', hata kiriri womens is better (and there is a youtube video by warren buffet emphasising the same) etc than harvard and stanford and some of this "ivy leagues", they SCIENTIFICALLY HATE africans and evolution theory was just part of the process, the same for your child's education, you might just end up with a twenging kumbaff and lots of money wasted, ukitaka shule ni MIT pekee!
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AlphDoti
#13 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 11:47:20 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.

Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?

Because this species can think.

@tycho, a car was created, does it think? Sad
hardwood
#14 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 12:02:56 PM
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tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


So did the creator copy other species....

hardwood
#15 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 1:12:02 PM
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#16 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 2:41:48 PM
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He has hit a wall. He has realized even Sophia is created and can think, yet the car also created doesn't...

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#17 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 5:04:23 PM
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Waoh! Thinking and Reasoning @Tycho l see your point!
Yah! why don't Lions make Ugali?
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#18 Posted : Monday, July 24, 2017 9:55:58 PM
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The reason white people were called wazungu is because when they came they could not stay still. They see a mountain and they ask questions, what is it called, what is on the other side etc. They see a river even more questions, where does it flow to etc. Africans did not bother with such questions, who cares what is on the other side of the mountain if it does not bother us, who cares where the river flows to. We were naturally content, not stupid just not bothered.

How do you know that the cat in your house is not smarter than you. Maybe it is just not bothered. Maybe it has figured out like Solomon figured out at last that everything is meaningless. Maybe we are the dumbest species because we think we can change anything while all other animals have figured out that in the grand scheme of things none of that matters so they just chill while we run around moving things around.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:17:47 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
The reason white people were called wazungu is because when they came they could not stay still. They see a mountain and they ask questions, what is it called, what is on the other side etc. They see a river even more questions, where does it flow to etc. Africans did not bother with such questions, who cares what is on the other side of the mountain if it does not bother us, who cares where the river flows to. We were naturally content, not stupid just not bothered.

How do you know that the cat in your house is not smarter than you. Maybe it is just not bothered. Maybe it has figured out like Solomon figured out at last that everything is meaningless. Maybe we are the dumbest species because we think we can change anything while all other animals have figured out that in the grand scheme of things none of that matters so they just chill while we run around moving things around.


Laughing out loudly sometimes I've thought this. Maybe monkeys are just looking at us like, what on earth are you guys doing running around helter skelter? Just take it easy man! Laughing out loudly
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:33:10 AM
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tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
tycho wrote:
All other animals could have come up via 'natural' causes. But humans, even when evolution is accepted, can only be created.


Why should one primate (Homo sapiens) think that it is more special than the other beasts?


Because this species can think.


What makes you think there are no superior beings out there, who look at our busy bodies and just laugh it off....same as you see ants busy and just laugh at them yet they are building a ' kingdom'?
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