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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago It was suspended for other reasons.........  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago It was suspended for other reasons......... @angel that deal was suspect.. meanwhile we have Chinese fizz being brought in for the beverages.. It's not looking pretty. But to each his/her own
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago It was suspended for other reasons......... BOC wanted to buy out carbacid.The cma must have suspected some fishy dealings. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:bartum wrote:@obiero ksh 38b from where The middle east Liar. Most of the money is coming from long-suffering KENYAN taxpayers [& perhaps some from KLM and IFC]. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago   The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business. Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business. Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years.  Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:bartum wrote:@obiero ksh 38b from where The middle east Liar. Most of the money is coming from long-suffering KENYAN taxpayers [& perhaps some from KLM and IFC]. Hehe.. It wasn't meant to be.. But when in need of cash, any source will do. Money is money
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 539 Location: Nakuru
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business. Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years. Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt... For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ebenyo wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago It was suspended for other reasons......... BOC wanted to buy out carbacid.The cma must have suspected some fishy dealings. BOC wanted to buy out Carbacid. Matiba refused to sell his 22% holding to BOC. CMA refused to approve the takeover since it wasn't supported by 90% of the shareholding. The wrangles led to court cases, Matiba thrown out of Carbacid Board. CMA suspended both BOC and Carbacid. Matiba privately sold his stake to Centum. BOC dropped the takeover bid and suspensions were lifted. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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winmak wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business. Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years. Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt... Even you @vvs have negative equity.. It's really not that a big deal, plus we now look forward.. We cannot judge a 41 year old entity by 5 years only..
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:winmak wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business. Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years. Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt... Even you @vvs have negative equity.. It's really not that a big deal, plus we now look forward.. We cannot judge a 41 year old entity by 5 years only.. Negative Equity = Bankrupt The only reason KQ hasn't been liquidated is the pressure from GoK on the banks not to do so. A (local bank) banker told me that CBK hasn't forced them to write-off [100% NPLs] the loans to KQ coz of the implicit guarantee of GoK. Under CBK's prudential guidelines, loans to KQ [just as Uchumi] would have been considered "bad debts" since KQ's financial statements were qualified, huge losses for 5 years, negative equity and worsening debt:equity ratios. Anyway, let me stick with my "boring yet profitable" KK, KenRe, DTK and I&M. Even Unga [possible loss for 2016-17] has assets > liabilities despite the drama with the drought, maize shortages and Nakumatt [bad debts]. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/7/2016 Posts: 79 Location: Home
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:winmak wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:There is a sister thread called "stocks to buy".it should be activated to bring balance. @ebenyo Any stock not on this thread should ideally be on the buy list, ama namna gani?? the problem is that our personal tests differ.for example i like carbacid because of 1.current profit margin of 51% 2.Positive cash flow currently at kshs 605,165,000 3.Equity over assets ratio of 92% Surely how can you advise someone to sell such a stock with those dimensions.Instead its a buy and hold for me. Are you aware that the firm was suspended just a few years ago The shares were suspended from trading coz of the BOC offer to buy Carbacid not coz of any funny business. Shares that should be suspended from trading include all those with NEGATIVE equity and making losses for 5 years. Hehehe VVS can really hit (someone) below the belt... Even you @vvs have negative equity.. It's really not that a big deal, plus we now look forward.. We cannot judge a 41 year old entity by 5 years only.. Negative Equity = Bankrupt The only reason KQ hasn't been liquidated is the pressure from GoK on the banks not to do so. A (local bank) banker told me that CBK hasn't forced them to write-off [100% NPLs] the loans to KQ coz of the implicit guarantee of GoK. Under CBK's prudential guidelines, loans to KQ [just as Uchumi] would have been considered "bad debts" since KQ's financial statements were qualified, huge losses for 5 years, negative equity and worsening debt:equity ratios. Anyway, let me stick with my "boring yet profitable" KK, KenRe, DTK and I&M. Even Unga [possible loss for 2016-17] has assets > liabilities despite the drama with the drought, maize shortages and Nakumatt [bad debts]. Explain your rationale for i&m???
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
@obiero Why kenol (KK)? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
@obiero Why kenol (KK)? @spikes volatility in trades in the recent few months with large peaks and troughs. Unless one has inside knowledge, one may be left swimming naked
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
@obiero Why kenol (KK)? @spikes volatility in trades in the recent few months with large peaks and troughs. Unless one has inside knowledge, one may be left swimming naked Deacons down http://www.businessdaily...76716-ioe1esz/index.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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obiero wrote:stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
You should include ARMCEMENT in this list.
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xxxxx wrote:obiero wrote:stocks to trade with eyes wide open 05.08.17: barclays, britam, cables, carbacid, cargeneral, centum, deacons, eabl, eapc, eveready, express, home afrika, hfck, i&m, kapch, keno, kenre, kurwitu, kq, mumias, nbk, nic, olympia, sameer, scbk, tpsea,transcentury, uchumi, unga, umeme
You should include ARMCEMENT in this list. Not everything goes@xyz, Y arm?  ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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