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Angelica _ann
#281 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 7:08:52 PM
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hisah wrote:
Tomorrow is FY news day. Did I see a bull trap Think

Sad
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#282 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 7:15:37 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hisah wrote:
Tomorrow is FY news day. Did I see a bull trap Think

Sad


Lack of consistency makes this counter unpredictable. But it's more obvious for a not so good news!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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#283 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 8:04:01 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=hisah]Tomorrow is FY news day. Did I see a bull trap Think


i will dig through the financial report to ascertain the true financial health of this "thetamu".
Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Realtreaty
#284 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 8:40:01 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
hisah wrote:
Tomorrow is FY news day. Did I see a bull trap Think

Sad


Lack of consistency makes this counter unpredictable. But it's more obvious for a not so good news!



smile Wait for a very positive surprise gents/ladies. Everything is under lid
Maybe @2 Bob dividends and most likely increase trading shares with a 1 for 10 bonus to increase liquidity
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gatoho
#285 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:29:00 PM
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Hopefully there is some good news to sell
Foresight..
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#286 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:22:21 AM
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There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Realtreaty
#287 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:56:08 PM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

SpiralingAnxious Anxious Anxious Anxious Anxious
Just wondering whether the 5 year value creation that ends 2018-9 will be successful or horrible Sad Sad Sad
Yes we have many investment vehicles leading to new openings but Centum is still hungry for more funds to do projects.
They do not want to liquefy the stock by issues bonuses but maintaining lower price of a stock that moved from 85 high to now 40!!!

Too much regulated!!!

Coop Bank has decided to make money by increasing No of shares.

So who is making Money?
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Horton
#288 Posted : Saturday, June 17, 2017 3:09:31 PM
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1.1m shares traded on Friday. Seems like a big buyer.

If this trend continues we may have an uptick ladies and gents
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Ericsson
#289 Posted : Sunday, July 16, 2017 8:03:46 AM
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Sidian Bank is dead.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero
#290 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 6:54:40 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Sidian Bank is dead.

Meaning?

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.75; MTN ABP 5.20
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#291 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 7:21:27 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Sidian Bank is dead.

Meaning?


Bank is bleeding money/into serious loss making
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VituVingiSana
#292 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 4:31:44 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Sidian Bank is dead.

Meaning?


Bank is bleeding money/into serious loss making

Bad timing for Centum which bought into Sidian not long ago. Tier 3 banks will have a tough time under the Interest Capping regime. The loss to Centum may be quantifiable i.e. loss of equity but there is "reputation risk" though there may be a partial value for the license.

SBM bought Fidelity. There are bidders for NBK, Chase, etc.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#293 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 5:50:48 PM
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KRA rejecting bankers Cheques from Sidian Bank.
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obiero
#294 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 7:00:15 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
KRA rejecting bankers Cheques from Sidian Bank.

No way.. Banker's cheques are drawn against confirmed cash holding

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.75; MTN ABP 5.20
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Angelica _ann
#295 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 7:06:30 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KRA rejecting bankers Cheques from Sidian Bank.

No way.. Banker's cheques are drawn against confirmed cash holding


Heh heh heh smile smile smile
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#296 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 7:12:04 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KRA rejecting bankers Cheques from Sidian Bank.

No way.. Banker's cheques are drawn against confirmed cash holding


Somebody please tell this is not true or that the rumor has not spread too far because even if it is not true and the rumor spreads far it will trigger a run of withdrawals and for a small bank like Sidian I do not think it can last one hour when everyone wants their money back.
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obiero
#297 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 7:30:02 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KRA rejecting bankers Cheques from Sidian Bank.

No way.. Banker's cheques are drawn against confirmed cash holding


Somebody please tell this is not true or that the rumor has not spread too far because even if it is not true and the rumor spreads far it will trigger a run of withdrawals and for a small bank like Sidian I do not think it can last one hour when everyone wants their money back.

The bank is struggling but banker's cheques in this country can simply not be unpaid, unless they are fraudulent

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.75; MTN ABP 5.20
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streetwise
#298 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 8:34:24 PM
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Are they paying suppliers ama nikunakumatt style
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muandiwambeu
#299 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2017 11:24:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Sidian Bank is dead.

Meaning?


Bank is bleeding money/into serious loss making

Bad timing for Centum which bought into Sidian not long ago. Tier 3 banks will have a tough time under the Interest Capping regime. The loss to Centum may be quantifiable i.e. loss of equity but there is "reputation risk" though there may be a partial value for the license.

SBM bought Fidelity. There are bidders for NBK, Chase, etc.

Centum can spin off sidian at a loses and never look back over its shoulders. Who is doubting that? @vvs! No no no! Drool
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alotoftalk
#300 Posted : Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:25:50 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Sidian Bank is dead.


Reminds me of my thinking from April 2016:

alotoftalk wrote:
Sidian maybe Centum's waterloo if they don't get a strategic partner to partner with them. They'll require to pump more capital every year to support any ambitions they have to grow the former K-Rep to a tier-two bank. This will either mean they have to raise more funds by exiting their current holdings or a cash call in the near future at a time when banking returns are not as rosy as they have been the past 10 years.

Unless the strategy here is to make it M&A attractive and get a bigger bank to buy them out.


Let's see if they'll mark its value down in the H1 or maintain a lofty valuation in their books.

Chances are they're already shopping for a buyer. Any of those banks which were lining up to buy Chase Bank may receive a call with an alternative proposition.
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