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Rank: Member Joined: 12/18/2007 Posts: 159 Location: Kenya
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.....contribution of the month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............KUDOS!!!!!!!!!!!! Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago. Admin, Luckily; age will one day transform me into an Elder.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2007 Posts: 816
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@kint mint - I spoke to you earlier today. Send me the same details requested by BAAK. Also check your email.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/20/2007 Posts: 252
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Hi @BAAK, hope you are keeping well. Did you ever biuld the mabati houses?
Kindly share your experience.
Asante
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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a4architect wrote:An average 2 roomed mabati house will cost ksh 60,000 to build..without concrete foundation. The thickness of the mabati is key to the longevity ..in kenya we have gauge 28-thickest at approx.ksh 500 per square meter,gauge 30 at appr. 400ksh per square meter and gauge 32 at ksh 250 per square meter. Gauge 28 will last 20 years,gauge 30,10 years and gauge 32 5 years approx.
www.a4architect.com www.prismafrica.com I have seen many structures last more and more years with gauge 32. I think five is verly low. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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Burning Spear wrote:a4architect wrote:An average 2 roomed mabati house will cost ksh 60,000 to build..without concrete foundation. The thickness of the mabati is key to the longevity ..in kenya we have gauge 28-thickest at approx.ksh 500 per square meter,gauge 30 at appr. 400ksh per square meter and gauge 32 at ksh 250 per square meter. Gauge 28 will last 20 years,gauge 30,10 years and gauge 32 5 years approx.
www.a4architect.com www.prismafrica.com @burning spear I have seen many structures last more and more years with gauge 32. I think five is verly low. It depends on location. Locations along the coast rust faster. Locations near water eg bathrooms rust faster. Also, if the quality of the galvanisation is poor, it will rust faster. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2007 Posts: 816
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a4architect wrote:Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2009 An average 2 roomed mabati house will cost ksh 60,000 to build..without concrete foundation. The thickness of the mabati is key to the longevity ..in kenya we have gauge 28-thickest at approx. ksh 500 per square meter,gauge 30 at appr. 400ksh per square meter and gauge 32 at ksh 250 per square meter. Gauge 28 will last 20 years,gauge 30,10 years and gauge 32 5 years approx. www.a4architect.comwww.prismafrica.com 0ver 4 years back, ... I'm guessing its different today? If so what's the difference?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2009 Posts: 2,863
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JkMwatha wrote:a4architect wrote:Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2009 An average 2 roomed mabati house will cost ksh 60,000 to build..without concrete foundation. The thickness of the mabati is key to the longevity ..in kenya we have gauge 28-thickest at approx. ksh 500 per square meter,gauge 30 at appr. 400ksh per square meter and gauge 32 at ksh 250 per square meter. Gauge 28 will last 20 years,gauge 30,10 years and gauge 32 5 years approx. www.a4architect.comwww.prismafrica.com 0ver 4 years back, ... I'm guessing its different today? If so what's the difference? Shockingly, currently 2.5m long gauge 30 mabati is going for 560/= PER PIECE! 2.5m long gauge 32 mabati is going for 470/= PER PIECE! IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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surprisingly,4 years later and the cost of mabati hasnt moved much. Same with cement, steel, stone, labour etc. Construction materials price exept where dependent on diesel/transport, have increased at the rate of inflation of around 9%. Only land has appreciated at between 30 to 60% annually. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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By A4architect
An average 2 roomed mabati house will cost ksh 60,000 to build..without concrete foundation.
The thickness of the mabati is key to the longevity ..in kenya we have gauge 28-thickest at approx.ksh 500 per square meter,gauge 30 at appr. 400ksh per square meter and gauge 32 at ksh 250 per square meter. Gauge 28 will last 20 years,gauge 30,10 years and gauge 32 5 years approx.
By a4architect
Mabati gauge 30. costs 570kes for a 2m by 0.8m wide sheet.
Mabati Gauge 32 costs 470 for same.
This translates to kes 350 per m2.
Add cost of timber frame support, say 4m x kes 30 per foot.
Cyprus 2 x2 costs around kes 24 to kes 30 per foot. This translates to kes 100 per linear meter.
Assuming 1 square meter of mabati requires 4 linear meters of timber for support, this translates to kes 100 x 4 = kes 400.
Add labour/nails say kes 200
=kes 950 per m2
Lets calculate cost of stone wall per m2.
A machine cut stone, 6 x 9, costs kes 50 delivered to site.
There are 12 to 13 stones per m2=kes 650 per m2.
Add kes 200 labour/cement=kes 850 per m2.
From this, we can deduce a mabati walling is kes 100 more expensive than a stone walling around Nairobi.
Jokes
A4achitect has really been informative but from the above two responses there seems to be some conflict to the answers. from the first answer the cost of a 2 roomed mabati house is 60,000 without the foundation. to me this is really way cheap.
In the next response in your website you deduce that stone built houses are way cheaper per sq meter.
from my meager experience mabati houses are way cheaper than stone built houses but i am not an expert. from your expert opinion which of the two above is correct cost from ground up and return on investment?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@jokes, we are dealing with info written 5 years apart. 5 years ago, mabati was cheaper. Currently, its not. In the 60k cost, we are not analysing cost of wall surface per m2. In the recent analysis, it refers specifically to cost per m2 of wall surface. Its like comparing apples to oranges. Wall cost per m2 can also go into details to include supporting timber structure,labour,nails etc hence a different end figure. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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therefore which is cheaper to build?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 1,668 Location: nairobi
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@jokes, stone house. New slums along kangundo road/chokaa area are now being constructed using stone as opposed to mabati coz stone is cheaper. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/12/2016 Posts: 22
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I think mabati houses are cheaper since there is no need for plastering?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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bennry wrote:I think mabati houses are cheaper since there is no need for plastering? Why are you arguing with an expert? The logistics of getting the materials on site ie stone, sand, cement, kokoto et al is the cost driver here
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,211 Location: nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:bennry wrote:I think mabati houses are cheaper since there is no need for plastering? Why are you arguing with an expert? The logistics of getting the materials on site ie stone, sand, cement, kokoto et al is the cost driver here Its clear that mabati is cheaper and would get you up and running in a shorter span of time but would you classify that as a genuine asset, really.. You can't even equity release on those shacks plus they depreciate rapidly
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