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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Matoe wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Uram wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:No thread on this yet?
Islamic inspired terrorism.
Any reason why they have withheld the identity of the attacker?
@Alphadoti, wade right in with the alternative view (aka lie) Condolence to the families of those killed. Again, with stereotyping, people must link it to religion... Even when it is clear killing of innocent lives is condemned with the highest voice! May Allah protect all of us from such harm, ameen! As regards why identify withheld? It is most likely coz they are not "Islamic" names... Let's wait and see Khalid Masood it is He is a terrorist. He is solely responsible for what he did. No one else who was not part of this is responsible. I'll just leave this here: *Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.” * Yesterday, 23rd March 2017 these are some of the newsheadlines from different news sources around the world about the same thing. Today, this age, Imams still call for killings of infidels. German state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic cultural association mosque banned for extremist comments: German stateGerman state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic group banned in German state after imam calls for killings @Anti_Burglar are these authentic source of news? Can you share what was alleged said? I think gutter press news can be propaganda and should not be used just to prove your point.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Below was the aftermath of a truck bomb detonated in London in 1993 by Catholic extremists the IRA. Was there talk of banning Catholics? Was the Catholic faith considered extreme? What's the fascination with Islam?  Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Matoe wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Uram wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:No thread on this yet?
Islamic inspired terrorism.
Any reason why they have withheld the identity of the attacker?
@Alphadoti, wade right in with the alternative view (aka lie) Condolence to the families of those killed. Again, with stereotyping, people must link it to religion... Even when it is clear killing of innocent lives is condemned with the highest voice! May Allah protect all of us from such harm, ameen! As regards why identify withheld? It is most likely coz they are not "Islamic" names... Let's wait and see Khalid Masood it is He is a terrorist. He is solely responsible for what he did. No one else who was not part of this is responsible. I'll just leave this here: *Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.” * Yesterday, 23rd March 2017 these are some of the newsheadlines from different news sources around the world about the same thing. Today, this age, Imams still call for killings of infidels. German state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic cultural association mosque banned for extremist comments: German stateGerman state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic group banned in German state after imam calls for killings @Anti_Burglar are these authentic source of news? Can you share what was alleged said? I think gutter press news can be propaganda and should not be used just to prove your point. Denmark’s leading Muslim imam calls for death of infidels and women who cheat on their husbands. Oh watch the little videos on the side as well. I found this little gem that I thought was interesting. d Happy watching!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Lolest! wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Swenani wrote:Islamic inspired? Tuache jokes You do not know ISlam. It is life and death, existential issues, literally. i see what you did there I find it incomprehensible that a "kaffir" can stand up among his peers and defend this religion. Are they out of their minds!? To not alienate them further and hence drive them into the embrace of the Islamists, I forgive them for they know now what they do.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Matoe wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Uram wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:No thread on this yet?
Islamic inspired terrorism.
Any reason why they have withheld the identity of the attacker?
@Alphadoti, wade right in with the alternative view (aka lie) Condolence to the families of those killed. Again, with stereotyping, people must link it to religion... Even when it is clear killing of innocent lives is condemned with the highest voice! May Allah protect all of us from such harm, ameen! As regards why identify withheld? It is most likely coz they are not "Islamic" names... Let's wait and see Khalid Masood it is He is a terrorist. He is solely responsible for what he did. No one else who was not part of this is responsible. I'll just leave this here: *Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.” * Yesterday, 23rd March 2017 these are some of the newsheadlines from different news sources around the world about the same thing. Today, this age, Imams still call for killings of infidels. German state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic cultural association mosque banned for extremist comments: German stateGerman state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic group banned in German state after imam calls for killings @Anti_Burglar are these authentic source of news? Can you share what was alleged said? I think gutter press news can be propaganda and should not be used just to prove your point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9nzSEGbQBg
Denmark’s leading Muslim imam calls for death of infidels and women who cheat on their husbands. Oh watch the little videos on the side as well. I found this little gem that I thought was interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p9iiWi9Rrw
Happy watching! @Anti_Burglar, you want to discuss some random comedian? I asked you about the story of German Imam from your links you posted last evening... and you changed the story...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Lolest! wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Swenani wrote:Islamic inspired? Tuache jokes You do not know ISlam. It is life and death, existential issues, literally. i see what you did there I find it incomprehensible that a "kaffir" can stand up among his peers and defend this religion. Are they out of their minds!? To not alienate them further and hence drive them into the embrace of the Islamists, I forgive them for they know now what they do. He is trying to tell that you're filled with hate towards Islam. You're too blinded with propaganda you're getting from comedians. What drives you is that deep inside your heart you know that Islam is genuine. And you know that it has not been corrupted with man's alterations and fabrications. So what you're left with is envy and hate towards Islam.
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Matoe wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Uram wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:No thread on this yet?
Islamic inspired terrorism.
Any reason why they have withheld the identity of the attacker?
@Alphadoti, wade right in with the alternative view (aka lie) Condolence to the families of those killed. Again, with stereotyping, people must link it to religion... Even when it is clear killing of innocent lives is condemned with the highest voice! May Allah protect all of us from such harm, ameen! As regards why identify withheld? It is most likely coz they are not "Islamic" names... Let's wait and see Khalid Masood it is He is a terrorist. He is solely responsible for what he did. No one else who was not part of this is responsible. I'll just leave this here: *Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.” * Yesterday, 23rd March 2017 these are some of the newsheadlines from different news sources around the world about the same thing. Today, this age, Imams still call for killings of infidels. German state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic cultural association mosque banned for extremist comments: German stateGerman state bans mosque group after imam calls for killingsIslamic group banned in German state after imam calls for killings @Anti_Burglar are these authentic source of news? Can you share what was alleged said? I think gutter press news can be propaganda and should not be used just to prove your point. Denmark’s leading Muslim imam calls for death of infidels and women who cheat on their husbands. Oh watch the little videos on the side as well. I found this little gem that I thought was interesting. d Happy watching! @Alph, have you watched these?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Those guys are soo delusional. It's a pity they are in positions where young minds are likely to trust and take their words. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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guru267 wrote:
What's the fascination with Islam?
Terrorists = muslims muslims = terrorists Islam = religion of death 
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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ISIS claims responsibility for London attacks of 4th June 2017Quote:"A detachment of fighters from Islamic State carried out London attacks yesterday," said the Aamaq news agency, which is affiliated with the Islamic State group. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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I repeat: I call them US shoe-polish boys!I repeat: I have said here again and again that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab are all criminal groups. They don't represent Islam. Islam does not teach anyone killing of an innocent person/civilian, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam is against that! So as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram in Islam and whoever does, will go to hell. And Muslims including myself have always spoke out, condemning these groups, telling the world, Wazua included that these people are not representing Muslims. This is not Islam. What they do or say is contrary to the Islamic teaching.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:I repeat: I call them US shoe-polish boys!I repeat: I have said here again and again that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab are all criminal groups. They don't represent Islam. Islam does not teach anyone killing of an innocent person/civilian, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam is against that! So as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram in Islam and whoever does, will go to hell. And Muslims including myself have always spoke out, condemning these groups, telling the world, Wazua included that these people are not representing Muslims. This is not Islam. What they do or say is contrary to the Islamic teaching. I thought you had endorsed a certain consipiratorial narrative that this is some inside job blah blah blah Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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AlphDoti wrote:I repeat: I call them US shoe-polish boys!I repeat: I have said here again and again that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab are all criminal groups. They don't represent Islam. Islam does not teach anyone killing of an innocent person/civilian, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam is against that! So as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram in Islam and whoever does, will go to hell. And Muslims including myself have always spoke out, condemning these groups, telling the world, Wazua included that these people are not representing Muslims. This is not Islam. What they do or say is contrary to the Islamic teaching. I think the problem is that, those groups always claim to do it for their religion, this is compounded by the fact that if you turn to the religious books it becomes hard to get a straight forward meaning, much was written in coded language and thus interpretation becomes varied. So in your case you are giving us one interpretation of you religion, and somewhere in syria or france or britain there is some other guy giving young people a different interpretation of the same that convinces them to go kill
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I repeat: I call them US shoe-polish boys!I repeat: I have said here again and again that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab are all criminal groups. They don't represent Islam. Islam does not teach anyone killing of an innocent person/civilian, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam is against that! So as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram in Islam and whoever does, will go to hell. And Muslims including myself have always spoke out, condemning these groups, telling the world, Wazua included that these people are not representing Muslims. This is not Islam. What they do or say is contrary to the Islamic teaching. I think the problem is that, those groups always claim to do it for their religion, this is compounded by the fact that if you turn to the religious books it becomes hard to get a straight forward meaning, much was written in coded language and thus interpretation becomes varied. So in your case you are giving us one interpretation of you religion, and somewhere in syria or france or britain there is some other guy giving young people a different interpretation of the same that convinces them to go kill Whatever they call themselves... "murderers who seek to gain religious legitimacy for their actions." Wherever and whoever, Kenya, Syria, France, Britain... "...such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the teachings of Islam"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I repeat: I call them US shoe-polish boys!I repeat: I have said here again and again that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab are all criminal groups. They don't represent Islam. Islam does not teach anyone killing of an innocent person/civilian, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam is against that! So as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram in Islam and whoever does, will go to hell. And Muslims including myself have always spoke out, condemning these groups, telling the world, Wazua included that these people are not representing Muslims. This is not Islam. What they do or say is contrary to the Islamic teaching. I thought you had endorsed a certain consipiratorial narrative that this is some inside job blah blah blah @nandwa, can you show me the post?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:I repeat: I call them US shoe-polish boys!I repeat: I have said here again and again that ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab are all criminal groups. They don't represent Islam. Islam does not teach anyone killing of an innocent person/civilian, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam is against that! So as far as terrorism is concerned, it is haram in Islam and whoever does, will go to hell. And Muslims including myself have always spoke out, condemning these groups, telling the world, Wazua included that these people are not representing Muslims. This is not Islam. What they do or say is contrary to the Islamic teaching. I thought you had endorsed a certain consipiratorial narrative that this is some inside job blah blah blah @nandwa, can you show me the post? Must be this one: Quote:#LondonAttacks
Another pre-planned attack by the Government at a sensitive time when we have elections in just 4 days time and Mrs Theresa May rattled by the pre-poll results. The majority of British people don't fully understand what Jeremy Corbyn has vowed to do, from stopping arms sales to dictators (£Billion sales per year) to promising to not get involved in Illegal invasions in the middle east. http://wazua.co.ke/forum...s&t=35482#post790012
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Seems Ramadhan is now a time to fast and kill....pathetic! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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