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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Chaka
#7621 Posted : Saturday, June 03, 2017 3:33:03 PM
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Several years ago there was talk of a train terminus at JKIA for transporting passengers to/fro from city centre?What happened to that plan?

obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
SGR will grab some of the passengers KQ and JJ used to fly to mombasa.
Turnaround of KQ will depend on managing costs and increasing passenger numbers.
Kazi ianze Bw.Sebastian Mikosz

@Ericsson you are somewhat right, but I prefer that you first use the train before issuing the forecast.. Hii kitu inasimamia kati ya msitu

Ericsson
#7622 Posted : Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:12:27 PM
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@Obiero
Any African thinking of leading KQ should first study the turnaround of Qantas Airlines.
Very many key lessons can be learnt from there which can be applied to KQ case
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#7623 Posted : Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:03:27 AM
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ProverB wrote:

For the year ended 31st March 2010, Kenya Airways Ltd recorded Total revenue of Kshs 70,743,000,000.00, and the company’s
Operating Profit amounted to Kshs 1,839,000,000.00

Operating margin = (Operating Profit /Revenues) x 100.
= (1,839,000,000.00 / 70,743,000,000.00) x 100 = 2.6%

Out of every Kshs1.00 Kenya Airways collected as revenue in the year, it retained only Kshs 0.03, as operating profit after paying for the operational expenses incurred in getting that Kshs 1.00
It is out of that 3Cents that Kenya Airways is to pay out financial costs as well as taxes and the balance retained as profits for share holders.

Should we choose to focus only on the company’s core business operations, Kenya Airways operational performance for the just ended period is rather dismal compared to the previous periodsSad
 For 2010, Kenya Airways had an operating margin of 2.6%
 For 2009, the operating margin was 5.6%
 For 2008, the operating margin was 11.6%
 For 2007, the operating margin was 13.1%
Declining operating margins over time should be a warning sign to any investor. d'oh!

On average, out of every kshs1 in revenues that Kenya Airways collects annually, it has overtime paid more and more in operational costs. It could imply that the company is having difficulty in bringing in revenues considering that it registered slightly declined revenues compared to the previous year, or that the management is facing increasing challenges in improving the company’s Operational Efficiency.
The 54.5% decline in Operating Profits might explain why despite reporting 148% improvement in earnings, the share registered a 8% decline in trading price as soon as results were published.

A lot is learnt by observing Operating profits trend over time, but it should not be the only factor one considers when planning whether or not the Kenya Airways shares are a viable investment.smile

Ceteris paribus.Pray

Back to basics.. Now that KQ is profitable at the operating level. Where do we go from here? In my view, the only way is up

Kenya Airways operating margin trend
2016 0.84%
2015 -3.52%
2014 -2.2%
2013 -9.11%
..
2010 2.6%
2009 5.6%
2008 11.6%
2007 13.1%
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
obiero
#7624 Posted : Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:56:34 AM
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enyands wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
21st July...thats Thursday I believe...


What will happen by then? Yves last working day?

9 days to go.. The rally is full on as predicted by @karasinga


Thursday as @Maka states.

CS Treasury hints at an equity partner within one month from now. They will play with it to favour them.



Interesting. Thursday is the day ,then a month time is when true shareholding will be realised! !!hope not dilution of current shareholders by creating more shares! !

The exchange bar confirms that dilution is on the way.. In this scenario KQ does not have the capital to service current liabilities and the firm is hindered from issuing new debt due to covenants of existing debt and a rights issue cannot even be mentioned. PJT Partners proposes equity offering of new shares worth KES 60B.. It will be an ebb and flow, dying to live or living to die.. I speak in code
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Spikes
#7625 Posted : Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:24:02 PM
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Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
21st July...thats Thursday I believe...


What will happen by then? Yves last working day?

9 days to go.. The rally is full on as predicted by @karasinga


Thursday as @Maka states.

CS Treasury hints at an equity partner within one month from now. They will play with it to favour them.



Interesting. Thursday is the day ,then a month time is when true shareholding will be realised! !!hope not dilution of current shareholders by creating more shares! !

The exchange bar confirms that dilution is on the way.. In this scenario KQ does not have the capital to service current liabilities and the firm is hindered from issuing new debt due to covenants of existing debt and a rights issue cannot even be mentioned. PJT Partners proposes equity offering of new shares worth KES 60B.. It will be an ebb and flow, dying to live or living to die.. I speak in code

You seem disillusioned by the way of your comments. Your early KQ views have plunged into unpredictability!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#7626 Posted : Sunday, June 04, 2017 1:10:13 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,295
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
21st July...thats Thursday I believe...


What will happen by then? Yves last working day?

9 days to go.. The rally is full on as predicted by @karasinga


Thursday as @Maka states.

CS Treasury hints at an equity partner within one month from now. They will play with it to favour them.



Interesting. Thursday is the day ,then a month time is when true shareholding will be realised! !!hope not dilution of current shareholders by creating more shares! !

The exchange bar confirms that dilution is on the way.. In this scenario KQ does not have the capital to service current liabilities and the firm is hindered from issuing new debt due to covenants of existing debt and a rights issue cannot even be mentioned. PJT Partners proposes equity offering of new shares worth KES 60B.. It will be an ebb and flow, dying to live or living to die.. I speak in code

You seem disillusioned by the way of your comments. Your early KQ views have plunged into unpredictability!

LOL
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
sparkly
#7627 Posted : Monday, June 05, 2017 7:35:35 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
21st July...thats Thursday I believe...


What will happen by then? Yves last working day?

9 days to go.. The rally is full on as predicted by @karasinga


Thursday as @Maka states.

CS Treasury hints at an equity partner within one month from now. They will play with it to favour them.



Interesting. Thursday is the day ,then a month time is when true shareholding will be realised! !!hope not dilution of current shareholders by creating more shares! !

The exchange bar confirms that dilution is on the way.. In this scenario KQ does not have the capital to service current liabilities and the firm is hindered from issuing new debt due to covenants of existing debt and a rights issue cannot even be mentioned. PJT Partners proposes equity offering of new shares worth KES 60B.. It will be an ebb and flow, dying to live or living to die.. I speak in code


Who will provide 60Bn equity to a company with -45Bn shareholders' funds? Junk bonds maybe, equity never.
Life is short. Live passionately.
maka
#7628 Posted : Monday, June 05, 2017 12:47:17 PM
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Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Going back to Egypt....
possunt quia posse videntur
Sir Jones
#7629 Posted : Monday, June 05, 2017 12:53:58 PM
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Joined: 3/10/2009
Posts: 36
maka wrote:
Going back to Egypt....

Meaning what @Maka?
maka
#7630 Posted : Monday, June 05, 2017 1:01:32 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Sir Jones wrote:
maka wrote:
Going back to Egypt....

Meaning what @Maka?


Code share signed with Egypt Air...4 flights per week.
possunt quia posse videntur
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