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hamburglar
#61 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:56:52 PM
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alma1 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
hamburglar wrote:

But if you think shooting an 18 year old in her bedroom is a manly thing to do, then we have to reconsider this idea of initiation in africa and circumcision.




Alma1
Wait until that very same 18 year old female thug ambushes you in your bedroom with a gun when you are sleeping. That's the day you and your manly initiated and circumcised ass will crap your pants.



You sound a bit confused to me. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

On the subject of this particular 18 year old, have you ever met her?

Have you ever been mugged by her?

Do you have any proof whatsover that she was a criminal? Like do you have anything to say about her? What is her name by the way?

Nothing, nada!

Just a story created on facebook by a lunatic who's pretending to be a policeman.

If this lunatic writes on that facebook you seem to love that humbaglar is a nutcase who doesn't know God and doesn't believe in him. I'm going to shoot him tommorow. Do you think we should believe him?

Kenyans just have to be serious about life.

I wouldn't believe a policeman even if I was paid. You are the same guys here who complain about traffic policemen and their hongo.

What makes you think this is not a case of a policeman who's not been given a portion of the loot?

Are you that daft, like really?

The law is very clear. Policemen are not vigilantes. If they want to shoot people, they should get another job.

I'm speaking here like someone with a thread talking about my phones being stolen. I have been mugged. I have seen terror with these people.

But my conscience and the reality in this country called Kenya will never allow me to support a policeman killing children in the name of saving my life.

If this killer was so hot, why don't they take him to Laikipia to deal with real men who steal cows?


Nonsense. Shoot to kill.
tycho
#62 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:33:27 AM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
hamburglar wrote:
alma1 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
hamburglar wrote:

But if you think shooting an 18 year old in her bedroom is a manly thing to do, then we have to reconsider this idea of initiation in africa and circumcision.




Alma1
Wait until that very same 18 year old female thug ambushes you in your bedroom with a gun when you are sleeping. That's the day you and your manly initiated and circumcised ass will crap your pants.



You sound a bit confused to me. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

On the subject of this particular 18 year old, have you ever met her?

Have you ever been mugged by her?

Do you have any proof whatsover that she was a criminal? Like do you have anything to say about her? What is her name by the way?

Nothing, nada!

Just a story created on facebook by a lunatic who's pretending to be a policeman.

If this lunatic writes on that facebook you seem to love that humbaglar is a nutcase who doesn't know God and doesn't believe in him. I'm going to shoot him tommorow. Do you think we should believe him?

Kenyans just have to be serious about life.

I wouldn't believe a policeman even if I was paid. You are the same guys here who complain about traffic policemen and their hongo.

What makes you think this is not a case of a policeman who's not been given a portion of the loot?

Are you that daft, like really?

The law is very clear. Policemen are not vigilantes. If they want to shoot people, they should get another job.

I'm speaking here like someone with a thread talking about my phones being stolen. I have been mugged. I have seen terror with these people.

But my conscience and the reality in this country called Kenya will never allow me to support a policeman killing children in the name of saving my life.

If this killer was so hot, why don't they take him to Laikipia to deal with real men who steal cows?


Nonsense. Shoot to kill.


May you also be shot! Dead!
tycho
#63 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:56:25 AM
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Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.

These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!

Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression.
Iganamagana
#64 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:05:27 AM
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Joined: 3/27/2009
Posts: 1,437
wukan wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
tycho wrote:
If you claim that there's evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these young people are robbers, why not kill them lawfully?

Why is it that the evidence presented in court is insufficient to take most of them beyond remand?

I think most of us are excited about killing, but if you want to kill do it lawfully. Otherwise we are soon going to be in a jungle where everyone is an assassin.



I am not for extra-judicial killing but you sound like a foreigner here. Our judicial system is clearly dysfunctional.


What you talking about Kibaki had some 3000 people on death row and he commuted them to life sentences. After that Uhuru had 2655 males and 92 females on death row and he also commuted the sentences to life. Our judiciary dispenses the highest portion of death sentences in the world. You call that dysfunctionald'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Look at the complete picture even in your village or estate. A rapist or robber is arrested today and is free by end of next week repeating what he has always done. He is released by the court for lack of evidence or through bail terms that you can not comprehend. Sometimes using forged title deeds. The case is dragged through the judicial system for years until everyone forgets about it. The prosecutor moves on, witnesses die or are unwilling to go through the nonsense and the magistrate is promoted. What do you call that?

Are you surprised that members of the public cheer on extra-judicial action?
mkeiy
#65 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:06:04 AM
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Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
Where we are in this Kenya as a people, it has come down to choosing the LESSER evil.

The lesser evil here being a dead, known criminal, than a defiled minor & dead parents, after release of the said criminal, on bond.

Loss of a single life to save lives is a bargain for me any day.
Mtu Biz
#66 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:38:26 AM
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Joined: 1/16/2007
Posts: 1,320
tycho wrote:
Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.

These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!

Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression.


Socially and economically marginalized natural citizens.

Ever heard a stand up comedian talking about kayole ?
Kayole is a different planet to some nairobians just as some leafy suburbs are a different planet to other nairobians.

Concentrated poverty can be diluted by urban planning that aims at integration of planets.

Tycho what do you see as a solution?
Sola Scriptura


AlphDoti
#67 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:45:18 AM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Iganamagana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
tycho wrote:
If you claim that there's evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these young people are robbers, why not kill them lawfully?

Why is it that the evidence presented in court is insufficient to take most of them beyond remand?

I think most of us are excited about killing, but if you want to kill do it lawfully. Otherwise we are soon going to be in a jungle where everyone is an assassin.

I am not for extra-judicial killing but you sound like a foreigner here. Our judicial system is clearly dysfunctional.

What you talking about Kibaki had some 3000 people on death row and he commuted them to life sentences. After that Uhuru had 2655 males and 92 females on death row and he also commuted the sentences to life. Our judiciary dispenses the highest portion of death sentences in the world. You call that dysfunctionald'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Look at the complete picture even in your village or estate. A rapist or robber is arrested today and is free by end of next week repeating what he has always done. He is released by the court for lack of evidence or through bail terms that you can not comprehend. Sometimes using forged title deeds. The case is dragged through the judicial system for years until everyone forgets about it. The prosecutor moves on, witnesses die or are unwilling to go through the nonsense and the magistrate is promoted. What do you call that?

Are you surprised that members of the public cheer on extra-judicial action?

I do not support extra-judicial killing... If they're sure these are criminals, then get evidence and arrest and pass judgement accordingly, even capital punishment where applicable. Because:
AlphDoti wrote:
<#18 Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:10:47 PM> Statistics show that most of the offenders have 60% repeat of the same crime. Please google and confirm.
KulaRaha
#68 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:46:45 AM
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Is there a Hessy wa corrupt GoK officials? Now that guy would have to do a lot of work....Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
AlphDoti
#69 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:48:05 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
wukan wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
tycho wrote:
If you claim that there's evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these young people are robbers, why not kill them lawfully?

Why is it that the evidence presented in court is insufficient to take most of them beyond remand?

I think most of us are excited about killing, but if you want to kill do it lawfully. Otherwise we are soon going to be in a jungle where everyone is an assassin.

I am not for extra-judicial killing but you sound like a foreigner here. Our judicial system is clearly dysfunctional.

What you talking about Kibaki had some 3000 people on death row and he commuted them to life sentences. After that Uhuru had 2655 males and 92 females on death row and he also commuted the sentences to life. Our judiciary dispenses the highest portion of death sentences in the world. You call that dysfunctionald'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

UNFORTUNATELY OUR SYSTEMS DON'T WORK
AlphDoti wrote:
<#19 Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:13:08 PM> I support death sentence criminals: burglar, rapists, terrorist, adultery, corruption, murderer, etc

When the law is applied, you find the society rate of crime drops drastically.

It creates a sense of security within a society. Where people are not obliged to use large locks and steel doors, heavy security, burglar alarms, all these kinds of things, which are prominent in places like our country Kenya and western countries! People live in fear.

So to me, basically, the law is a deterrent. Something to discourage people.

And I agree, people should be present to observe it.
It is not for entertainment in public. But for them to see the law and application. The sight of it helps to enforce in the minds of the people the laws are being applied and we should avoid these kinds of crimes.

And a result of that you find that the rate of this crime is quite low in general in countries where strict law is applied without compromise.
Anti_Burglar
#70 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:59:45 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
tycho wrote:
Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.

These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!

Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression.



The right to rob? Which rights, brother Tycho, are they being denied? A few examples can suffice.
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