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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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Chaos galore. ION, I believe that is @a4architect being interviewed in the video ama nimekosea? Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/9/2015 Posts: 188
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's  why are you clapping? Ok, whats wrong with having a mordern city with tall fancy buildings  he he tufike 100+ floors 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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bartum wrote:enyands wrote:hope some to be smart enough to build a city train .. question is wapi space Nairobi cbd is still very big, the under ground bado double to triple layer roads bado, go to Hong Kong and you will be amazed that kazi bado If my memory serves me right, I overheard someone say that Nairobi's water table does not permit underground construction, thats why there's no tunnel rail. Those who are conversant with this geological phenomenon will tell you that. I know for sure that the city of Nairobi and its environs is a water conservation area, the area was gazetted as a conservation area under the terms of the water ordinance act way back in 1951 by the British colonial government. @Obi Kanobi, you dont get mud and water pools in a modern city. No potholes on pathways, grass is well patched and the roads are paved. You have walk ways for those who choose to walk/run and the right infrastructure to move from point A to B. Tall buildings are just that....Tall buildings. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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urstill1 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I see serious traffic issue in Nairobi. Some of these companies should have moved their headquarters to business friendly towns like Nakuru, Eldoret, Kakamega... And now Hass Group of Companies kicks off the construction of the third Hilton hotel in Nairobi.. 66 floors
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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obiero wrote:urstill1 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I see serious traffic issue in Nairobi. Some of these companies should have moved their headquarters to business friendly towns like Nakuru, Eldoret, Kakamega... And now Hass Group of Companies kicks off the construction of the third Hilton hotel in Nairobi.. 66 floors Hilton Towers will not be 66 floors..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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mawinder wrote:obiero wrote:urstill1 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I see serious traffic issue in Nairobi. Some of these companies should have moved their headquarters to business friendly towns like Nakuru, Eldoret, Kakamega... And now Hass Group of Companies kicks off the construction of the third Hilton hotel in Nairobi.. 66 floors Hilton Towers will not be 66 floors.. Apologies.. The designers added 4 to make 70 floors.. Africa's tallest building, The Pinnacle https://www.standardmedi...eights-with-the-pinnacle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Chaka wrote:I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Chaka wrote:I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Chaka wrote:I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle @horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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obiero wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Chaka wrote:I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle @horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge.. Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD? African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Sober wrote:obiero wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Chaka wrote:I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle @horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge.. Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD? BTW that thing is tall....how many floors? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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maka wrote:Sober wrote:obiero wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Chaka wrote:I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare? Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change. We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle @horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge.. Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD? BTW that thing is tall....how many floors? The 6Bn building will tower 27 floors... African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Is this supposed to house offices for MPigs? Sober wrote:
Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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chiaroscuro wrote:Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up?
Land is too costly in Nairobi....a low total space/acre or ha. ratio would not make long term economic sense....so up they creep towards the skies More baffling, at least to me is why most of the investment is going to real estate...no one wants to build a factory? An ultra-modern farming enterprise? All the money raided from county coffers and kickbacks....flats...hotels...office blocks.. We'll become a nation of towering, shiny glass edifices with no tenants and crumbling from the inside while food security is a problem and we are importing even basic finished goods which we can manufacture here
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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chiaroscuro wrote:Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up? In order to create economic density a city needs to grow vertically not horizontally. It's not a shortage of space but rather urban economics where you create more economic benefits by locating businesses and residents near each other. E.g. if our CBD was built up tall with residential units at the top then you create the mythical 24 hour economy but our CBD is usually dead by 9pm
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Some ppl are also building warehouses probably to rent to importers.. quicksand wrote:
More baffling, at least to me is why most of the investment is going to real estate...no one wants to build a factory? An ultra-modern farming enterprise? All the money raided from county coffers and kickbacks....flats...hotels...office blocks..
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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Chaka wrote:Some ppl are also building warehouses probably to rent to importers.. quicksand wrote:
More baffling, at least to me is why most of the investment is going to real estate...no one wants to build a factory? An ultra-modern farming enterprise? All the money raided from county coffers and kickbacks....flats...hotels...office blocks..
I hope you guys are just but highlighting an issue. If not, stop whining. Pesa za wenyewe mwataka kuzipangia? Kivipi?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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wukan wrote:chiaroscuro wrote:Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up? In order to create economic density a city needs to grow vertically not horizontally. It's not a shortage of space but rather urban economics where you create more economic benefits by locating businesses and residents near each other. E.g. if our CBD was built up tall with residential units at the top then you create the mythical 24 hour economy but our CBD is usually dead by 9pm Parts of the CBD.. Insecurity related
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