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Swenani		#31 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:23:01 AM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		Nyansinski is bringing back hope If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Fyatu		#32 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:26:36 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru		alma1 wrote: masukuma wrote: I am currently in that phase of life where 99% of the music I consume is african and I can tell... we cannot beat Naija when it comes to dancable tunes nor can we beat our kaka brazas when it comes to ballads and poetry. the problem with our music is that its done in a hurry, it's dirty and nasty... compare that with the same genre from our kaka brazas and you will be shocked! Singing about the same things but... it's not offensive Masukuma I agree with you Listening to kaka diamond for me is exciting. Dancing to kaka diamond means that you have an easy pussy. That to me does not equate to the death or life of Kenyan art... Kenyan art is what it is... If it means that you with a manyanga for 100 bob while other means of manyangas are 70 bob...That's art... I mean kaka masukuma Have you ever gone to a swahili pub to listen to taarab? I agree that diamond is a fantastic and a game changer musician...His ryhmes and that other ugly fella from Uganda are just out of this world... Lakini I'm asking Have either of you fellas gone to a taarab pub in Malinidi? Where a fat, fat woman sings swahili ryhems? Or is she too ugly to sell a record? Is the problem her song or the producers and kameme dj yellow yellow feeling? My friend... I say again I can and shall take you to places in Mombasa where people rhyme...And the rest of us wonder...Ukweli hapa Tusker ni 140? Uliza kaka. Usilie. Na diamond sio. I beg to point out the error in red. There is nothing like a Taarab pub or a swahili pub. Swahilis in general abhor bars and pombe. Taarab is dead in Kenya....There is no single Taarab musician in Kenya. As we speak Taarab is headquartered in Zanzibar and visiwa vya Ugunja na Pemba. Most live taarab music played in Kenya is from hired artists from Bongo,and is mostly played in swahili weddings(wealthy swahilis). Taarab itself is evolving. If you doubt me, go to youtube and search for Khadija Kopa a.k.a Malkia wa Mipasho feat Diamond and see what i mean. Nowadays the Taarab musicians are leaning towards modern Tanzania "pop'(if you allow me to call it that)music.I don't know whether its a good thing or a bad thing, but just as Benjamin Franklin, i have decided not to worry about things that are out of my control. However, i am surprised that you have not mentioned "Bango" music of the coastal people (mostly Mijikenda's and the freed slaves of Frere town Mombasa). The main artist here being Mzee Ngala Mwenye and his son Jimmy. But just as taarab, this is also evolving to appeal to the young generations. My friends from the mountain will attest that Kamaru songs are legendary and are still very relevant lyrically and rhythmically etc. Kwa kumalizia i leave with this taarab chune...i love it. I hope you like it too. If the link is broken just google Khadija Kopa "Fullstop" Link Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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alma1		#33 Posted : Friday, May 19, 2017 4:34:45 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo		Fyatu wrote: alma1 wrote: masukuma wrote: I am currently in that phase of life where 99% of the music I consume is african and I can tell... we cannot beat Naija when it comes to dancable tunes nor can we beat our kaka brazas when it comes to ballads and poetry. the problem with our music is that its done in a hurry, it's dirty and nasty... compare that with the same genre from our kaka brazas and you will be shocked! Singing about the same things but... it's not offensive Masukuma I agree with you Listening to kaka diamond for me is exciting. Dancing to kaka diamond means that you have an easy pussy. That to me does not equate to the death or life of Kenyan art... Kenyan art is what it is... If it means that you with a manyanga for 100 bob while other means of manyangas are 70 bob...That's art... I mean kaka masukuma Have you ever gone to a swahili pub to listen to taarab? I agree that diamond is a fantastic and a game changer musician...His ryhmes and that other ugly fella from Uganda are just out of this world... Lakini I'm asking Have either of you fellas gone to a taarab pub in Malinidi? Where a fat, fat woman sings swahili ryhems? Or is she too ugly to sell a record? Is the problem her song or the producers and kameme dj yellow yellow feeling? My friend... I say again I can and shall take you to places in Mombasa where people rhyme...And the rest of us wonder...Ukweli hapa Tusker ni 140? Uliza kaka. Usilie. Na diamond sio. I beg to point out the error in red. There is nothing like a Taarab pub or a swahili pub. Swahilis in general abhor bars and pombe. Taarab is dead in Kenya....There is no single Taarab musician in Kenya. As we speak Taarab is headquartered in Zanzibar and visiwa vya Ugunja na Pemba. Most live taarab music played in Kenya is from hired artists from Bongo,and is mostly played in swahili weddings(wealthy swahilis). Taarab itself is evolving. If you doubt me, go to youtube and search for Khadija Kopa a.k.a Malkia wa Mipasho feat Diamond and see what i mean. Nowadays the Taarab musicians are leaning towards modern Tanzania "pop'(if you allow me to call it that)music.I don't know whether its a good thing or a bad thing, but just as Benjamin Franklin, i have decided not to worry about things that are out of my control. However, i am surprised that you have not mentioned "Bango" music of the coastal people (mostly Mijikenda's and the freed slaves of Frere town Mombasa). The main artist here being Mzee Ngala Mwenye and his son Jimmy. But just as taarab, this is also evolving to appeal to the young generations. My friends from the mountain will attest that Kamaru songs are legendary and are still very relevant lyrically and rhythmically etc. Kwa kumalizia i leave with this taarab chune...i love it. I hope you like it too. If the link is broken just google Khadija Kopa "Fullstop" Link Wewe njoo nikuonyesha Swahili pub. Sio kusema mambo ya sijui abhorring. Kwanza what does that mean? Like I said before Kenyan music is alive. Just not a capiro fm or maina kageni fm... Njoo nikupeleke tafadhali...Kuna dada na kaka mambasani watakupotosha na maneno. And they don't have Facebook or twirra. Njoo Fyatu, nikupeleke. Just because Kenyan producers are high on drugs doesn't mean their's no music. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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2012		#34 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2018 11:13:50 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		It's obvious that Kenyan music has improved and getting better by the day. My question is, is there money now in the music industry? Are Kenyans buying Kenyan music online or otherwise? BBI will solve it :)
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simonkabz		#35 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2018 1:02:28 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon		Meanwhile, Joseph Kamaru was recently hospitalized. He doesnt seem to be doing too well after a recent visit to his home in Thome....memory loss and all, but he still has with him the wisdom of a Gikuyu Elder. I compare his timeless golden tunes in the lines of Bob Marley, full of catchy phrases and endless proverbs, some requiring interpretation by the older wazees. Such quality music is now a hard find in today's Kenya. In the Gikuyu music scene though, there are a number of emerging youthful musicians but the content is mainly for pure entertainment and comic effect with zero message, the kind that fades away in a few short weeks. Sample this one....the chorus is hilarious but it all ends there. Wapi guka asakate..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR4BWJugf6k TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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