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AlphDoti
#601 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:16:10 PM
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Muslim means the one who submits his will to the will of God. Jesus Christ (pbuh) in Matt 7:21 Jesus says: "None of those who call me lord will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven."

Islam religion is the religion of total submission to God's will. One word for that in the Arabic language is Islam. Islam means "total submission to will of God".

So the devil does not submit to the Will of God. So he's not a Muslim.
AlphDoti
#602 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:18:49 PM
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Muslim also means one who not only believes in Allah as his Rabbi (the Creator), but also believes in the Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h as the Last Messenger of Allah.
2012
#603 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:08:48 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Muslim also means one who not only believes in Allah as his Rabbi (the Creator), but also believes in the Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h as the Last Messenger of Allah.



@AlphDoti, I've always wondered, did Islam originate from Ishmael, first son of Abraham?

Do Muslims worship Yahweh, the same God as the Christians?

BBI will solve it
:)
Mukiri
#604 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:53:06 PM
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Happened between Catholics and Protestants, power play at best. Is it the same between Shia and Sunni? How can one know which sect is right by Allah? Or Muhhamad PBUH?

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#605 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:50:36 PM
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2012 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Muslim also means one who not only believes in Allah as his Rabbi (the Creator), but also believes in the Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h as the Last Messenger of Allah.

@AlphDoti, I've always wondered, did Islam originate from Ishmael, first son of Abraham?

Do Muslims worship Yahweh, the same God as the Christians?

@2012, no. Islam did not originate from Ishmael. Islam is not a new religion, but the same truth that God revealed through all His prophets to every people. Including Ishmael...

Quran 2:136 Say (O Muslims), "We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and 'Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)."
AlphDoti
#606 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:52:08 PM
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@2012, Yes. Muslims worship Yahweh the creator of this universe... Allah is God's name in Arabic. The same God whose name is Mwenyezi Mungu in swahili, Ngai in Kikuyu, Mulungu in Kamba, Nyasaye in Luyia, Asis in Kalenjin etc.

Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Mungu, Ngai, Dieux etc no difference
AlphDoti
#607 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:03:33 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Happened between Catholics and Protestants, power play at best. Is it the same between Shia and Sunni? How can one know which sect is right by Allah? Or Muhhamad PBUH?

There is nothing like SUNNI or SHIA in Islam my friend @Mukiri. I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the juicy stories the media give you is so enticing.

Do you remember I told you before here that those terms are not in my religion, it is not in Quran. But it's in the minds of those who want to divide, people like you.
Mukiri
#608 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:11:44 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Happened between Catholics and Protestants, power play at best. Is it the same between Shia and Sunni? How can one know which sect is right by Allah? Or Muhhamad PBUH?

There is nothing like SUNNI or SHIA in Islam my friend @Mukiri. I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the juicy stories the media give you is so enticing.

Do you remember I told you before here that those terms are not in my religion, it is not in Quran. But it's in the minds of those who want to divide, people like you.

Thank you for the clarrification. Why is one group of Muslims (ISIS) killing other Muslims? And what is the Islam world doing about it?

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#609 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:18:41 PM
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Yawah! That your link!? It was very hotPray Water under the bridge?

Proverbs 19:21
2012
#610 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:32:26 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
@2012, Yes. Muslims worship Yahweh the creator of this universe... Allah is God's name in Arabic. The same God whose name is Mwenyezi Mungu in swahili, Ngai in Kikuyu, Mulungu in Kamba, Nyasaye in Luyia, Asis in Kalenjin etc.

Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Mungu, Ngai, Dieux etc no difference


Thanks for clarifying. It's good to learn from each other.

BBI will solve it
:)
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