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Coop Bank - Stocksmaster's 1st Play 2013
obiero
#661 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 10:26:38 AM
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Horton wrote:
Will drop to 13.50 or so. Early trading excitement

Even KES 12 is OK considering the bonus

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Dahatre
#662 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 10:34:58 AM
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Posts: 602
obiero wrote:

The lender also proposed the issuance of a bonus share at the rate of one for every five ordinary shares held, with the new shares expected to be credited on June 30 subject to approval from the Capital Markets Authority. Thank me now!

Woot!
lochaz-index
#663 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 10:52:02 AM
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Posts: 1,127
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The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
hisah
#664 Posted : Friday, March 17, 2017 3:14:00 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
bartum wrote:
obiero wrote:
gatoho wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm a buyer.


Haiya I thought ulihama

Alirudi

Currently trading at 14,take care

Long way to go on the weekly cartoon. Solid resistance stands between 15 and 16 zone.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
obiero
#665 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 8:43:05 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...856262-q4fyjp/index.html

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#666 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 9:21:55 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Cde Monomotapa]^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote]

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#667 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:26:25 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Cde Monomotapa]^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote]

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...11654-vnmjkrz/index.html

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#668 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:18:12 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Cde Monomotapa]^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote]

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html

7.5 billion shares?! Anxious
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Ericsson
#669 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 12:23:59 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
@Pesa Nane
7.5bn is to cater also for future issuance of bonus shares.
Kupita 20 bob mark will take time due to the huge number of issued shares unless profits continue growing double digits
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Pesa Nane
#670 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 3:33:30 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
Ericsson wrote:
@Pesa Nane
7.5bn is to cater also for future issuance of bonus shares. a rights issue
Kupita 20 bob mark will take time due to the huge number of issued shares unless profits continue growing double digits

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#671 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 6:17:40 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
@Pesa Nane
7.5bn is to cater also for future issuance of bonus shares.
Kupita 20 bob mark will take time due to the huge number of issued shares unless profits continue growing double digits

KES 20 can be easily printed. Especially once the rate caps are quashed

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#672 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:41:15 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,103
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Cde Monomotapa]^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote]

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html[/quote]

Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#673 Posted : Tuesday, May 09, 2017 6:00:18 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mr. Sulu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Cde Monomotapa]^We lead, others follow - ROOOARR!! (KCB - At consolidation stage) smile

KCB has underutilised strength and unlockin that has proved futile across change in management.. Meanwhile, banks with much lower asset base are angling for a kill! The lion is a CORPORATE bank that needed a connected captain, unfortunately the current one has shown no signs of being a master of these turbulent waters. There is a shift in the market where Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

Veni, vedi, veci..




@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html[/quote]

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html[/quote]

Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "

Now at KES 15.80.. Up 9.32% today on slim volume.. Exchange bar rings true

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#674 Posted : Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:26:32 PM
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KES 16.10 smashed with ease. This bus is running out of control. If we touch KES 18 before 26.05.2017, I shall sell and wait for the future to bring what it may https://www.nse.co.ke/ma...ics/market-snapshot.html

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#675 Posted : Thursday, May 11, 2017 1:36:02 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
[quote=obiero]KES 16.10 smashed with ease. This bus is running out of control. If we touch KES 18 before 26.05.2017, I shall sell and wait for the future to bring what it may https://www.nse.co.ke/ma...cs/market-snapshot.html[/quote]
High of KES 16.80 witnessed. Tomorrow we clock KES 17.20

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#676 Posted : Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:26:02 PM
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Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
[quote=obiero]KES 16.10 smashed with ease. This bus is running out of control. If we touch KES 18 before 26.05.2017, I shall sell and wait for the future to bring what it may https://www.nse.co.ke/ma...cs/market-snapshot.html[/quote]
High of KES 16.80 witnessed. Tomorrow we clock KES 17.20

This stock must touch 20/- take this to the bank.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Ericsson
#677 Posted : Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:31:53 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#678 Posted : Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:06:43 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,516
Location: nairobi
hisah wrote:
bartum wrote:
obiero wrote:
gatoho wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm a buyer.


Haiya I thought ulihama

Alirudi

Currently trading at 14,take care

Long way to go on the weekly cartoon. Solid resistance stands between 15 and 16 zone.

@hisah the problem is that cartoons cannot show what is inside Gideon boots. The alleged resistance has been dismantled on limited supply. Tomorrow we touch KES 17.. With average portfolio buy price of KES 13.25, my finger is on the trigger

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#679 Posted : Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:12:22 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
Share price is up 28% YTD.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Spikes
#680 Posted : Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:47:01 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
hisah wrote:
bartum wrote:
obiero wrote:
gatoho wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm a buyer.


Haiya I thought ulihama

Alirudi

Currently trading at 14,take care

Long way to go on the weekly cartoon. Solid resistance stands between 15 and 16 zone.

@hisah the problem is that cartoons cannot show what is inside Gideon boots. The alleged resistance has been dismantled on limited supply. Tomorrow we touch KES 17.. With average portfolio buy price of KES 13.25, my finger is on the trigger

@Obiero As for financials I can admit you understand the trendline.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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