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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
sparkly
#7371 Posted : Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:09:17 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentive a for better services, value and freedom of choice.


This is the most misinformed post I have ever seen from you. Qatar will slaughter KQ and have it for dinner.
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obiero
#7372 Posted : Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:23:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentive a for better services, value and freedom of choice.


This is the most misinformed post I have ever seen from you. Qatar will slaughter KQ and have it for dinner.

Hehe @sparkly, wachana na @vvs.. Meanwhile, JJ is doing wonders http://www.businessdaily...08044-vijuu6z/index.html

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#7373 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 1:12:27 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice.
[/quote

Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways.

KQ also gets subsidies through cheap loans or guarantees on loans.
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obiero
#7374 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 4:11:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice.
[/quote

Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways.

KQ also gets subsidies through cheap loans or guarantees on loans.

Not enough.. We need even the ticket price to be subsidised

KQ ABP 4.26
Flo-ology
#7375 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 6:36:41 PM
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Joined: 12/17/2016
Posts: 225
@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May.
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obiero
#7376 Posted : Monday, May 01, 2017 8:28:36 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Flo-ology wrote:
@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May.

Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait

KQ ABP 4.26
Impunity
#7377 Posted : Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:45:28 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Flo-ology wrote:
@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May.


But May has just started?
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maka
#7378 Posted : Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:54:43 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May.

Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait


smile
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obiero
#7379 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:30:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May.

Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait


smile

@maka we await the 2 big announcements in a few days. Then the 1 huge announcement in 1 month. Only way is up!!! 30% minimum gain expected

KQ ABP 4.26
Flo-ology
#7380 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:48:52 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/17/2016
Posts: 225
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May.

Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait


smile

@maka we await the 2 big announcements in a few days. Then the 1 huge announcement in 1 month. Only way is up!!! 30% minimum gain expected


@obiero, which announcements are these: new CEO? I thought Mbuvi will still hold on for some time? Reduced operating loss?? Or entry of new partner to replace KLM? Mind Elaborating?
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