Okay folks, cut Humbuglar some slack; I know his language isn’t the nicest sometimes but what do you expect when he has to defend his position against an army of apologists in a clearly hard-line Christian society? Actually I think that is quite courageous of him.

For a change why not watch a video(s) of theist debate against atheist. There are many choices off-courses and you can choose whichever you like from you tube; but this one that I post is between Christopher Hitchens (atheist) and Dinesh D’Souza (theist) in 2009. I don't expect anyone to change their position on their beliefs based on what they see or hear, but you can a least get to see why each side defends its position vigorously. Both debaters are quite erudite.

Apart from your silly question, there are issues you need to respond to from my post.

What are you arguing about? Religion, or Christianity; do you know the difference between the two?

Do you know of religious atheism?

And, finally, when you claim atheism is better, what do you really mean? That atheism has a better narrative than Christianity?

Yeah, answer these reasonably and the debate will be on course!

Apart from your silly question, there are issues you need to respond to from my post.

What are you arguing about? Religion, or Christianity; do you know the difference between the two?

I won't answer that question because it's an insult to my intelligence.

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Do you know of religious atheism?

There is nothing like religious atheism. That's an oxymoron. Those two are mutually exclusive, you are either a believer or a skeptic (agnostic and atheist). I have been an atheist for over 20 years and I have never heard anybody claim they are a religious atheist. Listen, this is a black and white issue, there is no grey area like you are trying to insinuate. You are either one or the other. That's it.

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And, finally, when you claim atheism is better, what do you really mean? That atheism has a better narrative than Christianity?

I mean that life of an atheist is better on paper. Period. Reasons why:

Atheists have been proven to be more intelligent than theists. That's why we don't get conned by pastors.

Individual atheists and atheist leaning countries are richer and have a much higher standard of living than religious countries and religious people.

Atheists on average are more educated and more accomplished than theists.

There are hardly any atheists in the prison systems around the world. Our percentage compared to the theist percentage is not comparable. Most criminals are god fearing.

Atheists are more morally upright than theists. Google it.

Bottom line is atheists have a much better lifestyle than most theists. There are many more reasons but that's what I can think of the top of my head.

I don't really care about about who has the better narrative, all I care about is who is living a better life. That's what we as human beings aspire for. A better life and not a better narrative.

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Yeah, answer these reasonably and the debate will be on course!

The question of religion or discussion, is one that nobody can win simply because it is personal and preferential. We might debate, argue and insult each other but our positions will not change, making all these meaningless.