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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#7361 Posted : Wednesday, April 26, 2017 8:45:11 PM
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Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#7362 Posted : Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:07:17 AM
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obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.
obiero
#7363 Posted : Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:08:33 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#7364 Posted : Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:02:48 AM
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.


Ericsson
#7365 Posted : Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:09:14 AM
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@ Arestedevelopment
We got money for budgetary support and projects.
Qatar has been wanting that route since 2007 but Kibaki always refused
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
ArrestedDev
#7366 Posted : Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:32:45 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
@ Arestedevelopment
We got money for budgetary support and projects.
Qatar has been wanting that route since 2007 but Kibaki always refused


Now Kinyua has handed it out and they want a mobitelea in KQ. I do not know what this guys are after.
obiero
#7367 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 7:02:50 PM
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tick tock

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#7368 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 7:13:41 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
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Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ArrestedDev
#7369 Posted : Saturday, April 29, 2017 10:43:28 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice.
[/quote

Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways.
obiero
#7370 Posted : Saturday, April 29, 2017 1:46:50 PM
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Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways.

http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote]
Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround .

Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways?

Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!


It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.

I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers


Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.



Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections.
Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice.
[/quote

Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways.

Same case for ET & SAA.. They get massive subsidies. But luckily help from GoK is around the corner for KQ

KQ ABP 4.26
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