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M-Akiba treasury bonds via mobile
Pesa Nane
#141 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:28:52 AM
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watesh wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
The Green Monster never lets an opportunity pass by...

Via Safcom sms
Quote:
To purchase M-Akiba bond dial 8889# and follow instructions. You can now invest between Kshs. 3000 - 140000 a day. Save Money, Make Money, Build Kenya !!


Then airtel will come crying that there are too many makiba accounts from safcom smile

For sure


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Safaricom’s M-Pesa platform handled Sh142 million of the total amount while Airtel money sold Sh8 million, underlining Safaricom’s dominance of the mobile money business.
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Ebenyo
#142 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:54:33 PM
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is the closing tomorrow or its closed already? there are conflicting news regarding the same.
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newfarer
#143 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:29:50 AM
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only 5k investors bought? things are just too thick.it's safe to say hakuna pesa rather than sina pesa


http://www.businessdaily...884998-x62w7o/index.html
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maka
#144 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 8:13:27 AM
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[quote=newfarer]only 5k investors bought? things are just too thick.it's safe to say hakuna pesa rather than sina pesa


http://www.businessdaily...84998-x62w7o/index.html[/quote]

Pesa iko...it's just that information dissemination to the masses from the offerors is pathetic.
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alutacontinua
#145 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:46:08 AM
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http://www.businessdaily...86684-fpl8re/index.html

It will be interesting to see the volumes CBA will get before the next M-Akiba bond of 4.85B...
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maka
#146 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:48:12 AM
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Someone suggested roping pesa link and I like that idea...I can bid up to 999,999
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Angelica _ann
#147 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:53:47 AM
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maka wrote:
[quote=newfarer]only 5k investors bought? things are just too thick.it's safe to say hakuna pesa rather than sina pesa


http://www.businessdaily...84998-x62w7o/index.html[/quote]

Pesa iko...it's just that information dissemination to the masses from the offerors is pathetic.


And many/most in the masses are laggards in matters structured financials smile
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gregory
#148 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:37:18 AM
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CBA BANK will buy and sell bond to any seller/buyer
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.


We have old school brokers who don't want stress...Sad To them having massive accounts is just a headache...


so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years?????

maka
#149 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:09:00 AM
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gregory wrote:
CBA BANK will buy and sell bond to any seller/buyer
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.


We have old school brokers who don't want stress...Sad To them having massive accounts is just a headache...


so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years?????



It's actually pretty easy if you follow the prompt it takes you to the bid or offer side...it's good CBA have agreed to market make.The transparency will be awesome as compared to the normal secondary market.Rem fixed income dealers have been fighting implementation of such a system where bids and offers will be on board just like that for equities.Reason they won't be able to do this...

http://www.theeastafrica.../-/14jqe5mz/-/index.html
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Ericsson
#150 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:04:47 PM
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Secondary Trading of M-Akiba Mobile Bond has been temporarily halted due to "Technical issues."
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Angelica _ann
#151 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:28:20 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Secondary Trading of M-Akiba Mobile Bond has been temporarily halted due to "Technical issues."


Normal with new systems. CBA will sort this one out smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
washiku
#152 Posted : Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:46:58 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Secondary Trading of M-Akiba Mobile Bond has been temporarily halted due to "Technical issues."


Normal with new systems. CBA will sort this one out smile smile smile


Its back.

http://www.businessdaily...889336-wubsf5/index.html
maka
#153 Posted : Sunday, April 16, 2017 10:47:50 AM
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washiku wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Secondary Trading of M-Akiba Mobile Bond has been temporarily halted due to "Technical issues."


Normal with new systems. CBA will sort this one out smile smile smile


Its back.

http://www.businessdaily...89336-wubsf5/index.html[/quote]

If you trade quite a bit on the secondary market you will note that regularly the systems dont work...mara CBK cant see the bond in your portfolio...when its availed the trader is given a wrong ATS ID...kazi ngumu hii.
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maka
#154 Posted : Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:49:50 AM
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maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Secondary Trading of M-Akiba Mobile Bond has been temporarily halted due to "Technical issues."


Normal with new systems. CBA will sort this one out smile smile smile


Its back.

http://www.businessdaily...89336-wubsf5/index.html[/quote]

If you trade quite a bit on the secondary market you will note that regularly the systems dont work...mara CBK cant see the bond in your portfolio...when its availed the trader is given a wrong ATS ID...kazi ngumu hii.




Na ona ili trade ka 66,000.
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Taurrus
#155 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 9:51:44 AM
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Eight days into June, anything of the Mega Bond as promised?
Ericsson
#156 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 9:58:28 AM
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Taurrus wrote:
Eight days into June, anything of the Mega Bond as promised?


Nothing and very unlikely itbwill be held now,
Maybe after elections
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#157 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:11:23 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
Eight days into June, anything of the Mega Bond as promised?


Nothing and very unlikely itbwill be held now,
Maybe after elections



Rates are crap now...
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newfarer
#158 Posted : Friday, June 09, 2017 6:36:19 AM
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things went mum on this thing.any one got the first promised interest? thought it was to be in April
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Ebenyo
#159 Posted : Friday, June 09, 2017 8:24:52 AM
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newfarer wrote:
things went mum on this thing.any one got the first promised interest? thought it was to be in April



first interest will be paid on 19.10.2017.
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Impunity
#160 Posted : Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:13:03 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
newfarer wrote:
things went mum on this thing.any one got the first promised interest? thought it was to be in April



first interest will be paid on 19.10.2017.


What is interestimated on a meager 10K investment?
Portfolio: Sold
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