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Hitler had Nothing on the Kenyan Woman
alma1
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 08, 2017 9:43:03 PM
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Today, actually last night

One person I know, someone who's helped my life. Someone who's an important cog to my life passed on.

At my age, these things are happening. So let's take a number.

We knew he was going for a few years, so that's not the story. Acceptance is a 7 step program.

However, and however and I hope the men here hear me.

First, I want to start with a disclaimer. This next part is fake. It's a mix of stories and I can assure you, you can't know where my mother lives with the coming story.

So some years ago.
Exhibit A fell in love with Exhibit B. Exhibit A was not rich. Far from it. Exhibit A was a generous guy. Loved his family to death. In fact, when he had money, he'd go to a shop and remove his clothes and get new ones. He'd not forget Person 1, person 2, person 3.

Exhibit A fell in love with a young gal who we shall call gashungwa. Gashungwa was great. Great for him, at least she used to feed him. Great for us, coz she bought me a bow tie.

Then came the Kikuyu task...It's actually now a task not a responsibilty....To take gashungwa to meet the family.

I was part of the family. Very excited....All went good. Until the last day...When we were taking a 2nk from Nyeri...

Exhibit A was told.

"Ndukarihe mumo guko rege"

For those short on Kikuyu like McReggea the jaruo...It means in Nyerian..."Don't bring another Kalenjin here, again"

And that was that.

He left the mumo. And he continued with his life. After all some buggers on this forum have the audacity to say, "you must respect your parents". What if your parents are racists uneducated fools? I'm just asking

So exhibit A went on to his life. With respect.

Unfortunately, every woman he met...Made him drink one more booze. One more viceroy...They were not Mumos...They were exactly what he was told was a "righteous" woman.

It wasn't true,but hey, parents are always right. You do know Hitler was a parent too. But that's a tycho issue.

For the past year, he's refused to talk to anyone in his family. And I mean anyone. Not brother, not sister, not anyone.

But he accepted his friends.

Before he passed he told me this.

There's nothing more liberating than knowing that someone you see around you is there, was there and has always been there.

For one year, he was in a hospital. He saw no one from his family. Refused everyone to enter to see him. Plainly said he does not want to see them.

Now he's gone.

The family has now chased everyone that used to talk to him. Like chased with cops.

After all.......

He had money...So we should expect that from "these pepo". Very sad indeed. But that's life. You can control your friends, but if your mother is an asshole, what do you do?


That's my Friday story so late. But it's a story. That has me thinking very hard about these people.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

tycho
#2 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 1:19:31 AM
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Aaah! Nice story!

The man was a child of the wind. The father was the wind, the mother, the rock.

The rock is held by the shadows. The shadows are layered. Layer upon layer.

It's a matter we talked about yesterday. What anthropology are we doing? We asked.

But at the end of it all, we found ourselves drinking to mothers and motherhood.

Their bigotry not withstanding.
alma1
#3 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 2:38:01 AM
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tycho wrote:
Aaah! Nice story!

The man was a child of the wind. The father was the wind, the mother, the rock.

The rock is held by the shadows. The shadows are layered. Layer upon layer.

It's a matter we talked about yesterday. What anthropology are we doing? We asked.

But at the end of it all, we found ourselves drinking to mothers and motherhood.

Their bigotry not withstanding.


My fear all the time

Only an issue about shadows. Mothers.....They don't understand

Their's no wind
Someone left us

We can't do shit. Hes gone

I'm not going that way, but that's life. you wait for years...then one day at moments...you are clocked out

He's gone like when we were talking


I want find out where the wind starts from. I may have the chance of slowing it out


Chances Tycho are just that. Chances..


I am what I am,. That means for them. I am who I am


But in my head I'm thinking


Baby let hair down
Let me run your fingers through

etc etc
That's life tycho...tukubali
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Bigchick
#4 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 6:55:31 AM
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Haiya!Pole.

Nikii?
Who was this person to you.He is making you take more than viceroy.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
alma1
#5 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 11:10:46 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
Haiya!Pole.

Nikii?
Who was this person to you.He is making you take more than viceroy.


Bigchick

Even men have mentors. People they believe in. People who trust them. People who have made them what they are...


I was going to remove this post but the pain of this man is too much for me to bear.


Women

1. Don't ever talk about your man's mother. I don't know what your pastors tell you. But please, please I don't know what to tell you women. Whatever the man's mother is, don't open your mouth and talk about the mother.

2. Talk about the mother....Like she's a nice mother. Wait for the man to talk badly about his mother. Then remind him, it's the mother.

3. Your pastor shall not marry you. Can't marry you. Infact, what I know about churches. Mushene mushene mushene in church. That is how your pastors make money. Instead of the Hitler giving money to her family. She gives it to this conman.


Very sad day today and yesterday for me. Good man, f***ed up by these people. Yet these people carry a bible and are allowed to vote.


Bigchick. Finding a good woman is harder than finding money in this country. And thank you. Like really thank you for caring....
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

sitaki.kujulikana
#6 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 1:25:30 PM
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alma1 wrote:

...

Very sad day today and yesterday for me. Good man, f***ed up by these people. Yet these people carry a bible and are allowed to vote.

...

condolences, its not a laughing matter but I had to chuckled at that
Mukiri
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 8:33:26 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Haiya!Pole.

Nikii?
Who was this person to you.He is making you take more than viceroy.


Bigchick

Even men have mentors. People they believe in. People who trust them. People who have made them what they are...


I was going to remove this post but the pain of this man is too much for me to bear.


Women

1. Don't ever talk about your man's mother. I don't know what your pastors tell you. But please, please I don't know what to tell you women. Whatever the man's mother is, don't open your mouth and talk about the mother.

2. Talk about the mother....Like she's a nice mother. Wait for the man to talk badly about his mother. Then remind him, it's the mother.

3. Your pastor shall not marry you. Can't marry you. Infact, what I know about churches. Mushene mushene mushene in church. That is how your pastors make money. Instead of the Hitler giving money to her family. She gives it to this conman.


Very sad day today and yesterday for me. Good man, f***ed up by these people. Yet these people carry a bible and are allowed to vote.


Bigchick. Finding a good woman is harder than finding money in this country. And thank you. Like really thank you for caring....

Bible is clear.. Respect your parents. Doesn't qualify that, indeed or intime. Always! Be they witches, uneducated, fools or whatnot.. RESPECT!

... and suffice to say, it is the only command with a promise, which seemingly Exhibit A didn't get to enjoy. That is water under the bridge. It is my prayer that where he transitioned to, is not worse because of his choices here... which money somehow seems to influence, more often than not. Something about a camel and the eye of a needle

Proverbs 19:21
masukuma
#8 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 8:54:16 PM
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My storo... I first had a luo girlfriend and later I married a maragoli woman - I respected my folks and relatives but I made my choice non negotiable. Your parents are not always right. But they are your parents. Just respectfully say "it's my choice", "I was coming to notify you of my choice" and people tow the line. Grow a pair fellows!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
washiku
#9 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 10:55:23 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#10 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 11:38:48 AM
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masukuma wrote:
My storo... I first had a luo girlfriend and later I married a maragoli woman - I respected my folks and relatives but I made my choice non negotiable. Your parents are not always right. But they are your parents. Just respectfully say "it's my choice", "I was coming to notify you of my choice" and people tow the line. Grow a pair fellows!!


We think alike, was going to bring this up. Its your choice, not your folks. As a grown man/woman, always make it very clear that you are your own person and that the choices you take whether they eventually positively or negatively impact you are yours to make and live with.

Your actions have the power to change the perceptions of those people around you who don't see things as you do.

@Alma, your friend screwed up and it cost him his happiness and life?

Even the bible has a part where it says man and woman shall leave their parents house and become one
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
AlphDoti
#11 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 11:57:14 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
My storo... I first had a luo girlfriend and later I married a maragoli woman - I respected my folks and relatives but I made my choice non negotiable. Your parents are not always right. But they are your parents. Just respectfully say "it's my choice", "I was coming to notify you of my choice" and people tow the line. Grow a pair fellows!!

We think alike, was going to bring this up. Its your choice, not your folks. As a grown man/woman, always make it very clear that you are your own person and that the choices you take whether they eventually positively or negatively impact you are yours to make and live with.

Your actions have the power to change the perceptions of those people around you who don't see things as you do.

@Alma, your friend screwed up and it cost him his happiness and life?

Even the bible has a part where it says man and woman shall leave their parents house and become one

I agree with @mavegs. Respect your parents, evaluate their opinion, as long it is within limits, such as if she has a bad reputation, close relative etc. Other flimsy, personal or worldly reasons, such as ati she is not from a good family, ati she's not "mtu wa nyumba" do not hold water. If you're sure you not infatuated with her and you do not fear any harm to yourself if you marry her, then do a head and marry the person of your choice.

Later, if you respect your parents, and the lady is good, the parents will tow the line...

@obi, Jesus said people must always prioritize, they shouldn't just follow their parents or brothers or sisters blindly... PRIORITIZE

Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters–yes, even his own life–he cannot be my disciple.
masukuma
#12 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 11:57:36 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
My storo... I first had a luo girlfriend and later I married a maragoli woman - I respected my folks and relatives but I made my choice non negotiable. Your parents are not always right. But they are your parents. Just respectfully say "it's my choice", "I was coming to notify you of my choice" and people tow the line. Grow a pair fellows!!


We think alike, was going to bring this up. Its your choice, not your folks. As a grown man/woman, always make it very clear that you are your own person and that the choices you take whether they eventually positively or negatively impact you are yours to make and live with.

Your actions have the power to change the perceptions of those people around you who don't see things as you do.

@Alma, your friend screwed up and it cost him his happiness and life?

Even the bible has a part where it says man and woman shall leave their parents house and become one

I have had the benefit of living (observing) the two types of marriages (arranged marriage where you folks agree with your spouse and a love marriage where you pick who you are going to stay with) from a close angle and they all make sense... IN THEIR CONTEXT!!
Arranged marriage (on in our context where the parents play a big role in determining your spouse). If you live in your parents house or on their compound - where you share facilities such as a kitchen or a farm or cows... you had better picked a woman who your mother wants... because you will be torn in between the two of them. You cannot side with any when confrontation takes place - sio? and wewe ndio utakuwa na shida. This works for wahindi and somalis who live in one building wote!! ama people in shags.
Love marriage - you determine who you are going to live with... why? unaishi mjini... you travel to shags for 2-3 days a year. the rest of the time unaishi na huyu mtu mjini PEKE YENU!! surely why would you weigh someone elses words more than yours on this matter? it's wise to listen and listen keenly to what the folks say but if their reasons are 'huyu ni kabila fulani' - wachana nayo!! kwanza kama ulizaliwa town and you schooled with hao 'wa-X'. it's important to remember that parents mean well but they are not always right!! They are just as flawed as everyone else, they just have been given a huge responsibility to raise you. they are a product of their time and environment - cut them some slack but remember NI WEWE UNAISHI NA HUYU MTU.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
mkenyan
#13 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 1:02:10 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
My storo... I first had a luo girlfriend and later I married a maragoli woman - I respected my folks and relatives but I made my choice non negotiable. Your parents are not always right. But they are your parents. Just respectfully say "it's my choice", "I was coming to notify you of my choice" and people tow the line. Grow a pair fellows!!


We think alike, was going to bring this up. Its your choice, not your folks. As a grown man/woman, always make it very clear that you are your own person and that the choices you take whether they eventually positively or negatively impact you are yours to make and live with.

Your actions have the power to change the perceptions of those people around you who don't see things as you do.

@Alma, your friend screwed up and it cost him his happiness and life?

Even the bible has a part where it says man and woman shall leave their parents house and become one

I have had the benefit of living (observing) the two types of marriages (arranged marriage where you folks agree with your spouse and a love marriage where you pick who you are going to stay with) from a close angle and they all make sense... IN THEIR CONTEXT!!
Arranged marriage (on in our context where the parents play a big role in determining your spouse). If you live in your parents house or on their compound - where you share facilities such as a kitchen or a farm or cows... you had better picked a woman who your mother wants... because you will be torn in between the two of them. You cannot side with any when confrontation takes place - sio? and wewe ndio utakuwa na shida. This works for wahindi and somalis who live in one building wote!! ama people in shags.
Love marriage - you determine who you are going to live with... why? unaishi mjini... you travel to shags for 2-3 days a year. the rest of the time unaishi na huyu mtu mjini PEKE YENU!! surely why would you weigh someone elses words more than yours on this matter? it's wise to listen and listen keenly to what the folks say but if their reasons are 'huyu ni kabila fulani' - wachana nayo!! kwanza kama ulizaliwa town and you schooled with hao 'wa-X'. it's important to remember that parents mean well but they are not always right!! They are just as flawed as everyone else, they just have been given a huge responsibility to raise you. they are a product of their time and environment - cut them some slack but remember NI WEWE UNAISHI NA HUYU MTU.

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