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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,011 Location: nairobi
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Horton wrote:talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
At last it will be efficient
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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bartum wrote:Horton wrote:talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
At last it will be efficient That is why we stress that someone was conned this week COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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@Horton On a par to par basis and assuming efficiency KCB should be trading at 53. The current price is a huge discount Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@Horton On a par to par basis and assuming efficiency KCB should be trading at 53. The current price is a huge discount Did you mistype 35 as 53?? Hii ni ile bang ya busia au bungoma. the chopper hanging kind COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@Horton On a par to par basis and assuming efficiency KCB should be trading at 53. The current price is a huge discount Yeah I agree with you. It is way underpriced.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:@Horton On a par to par basis and assuming efficiency KCB should be trading at 53. The current price is a huge discount Did you mistype 35 as 53?? Hii ni ile bang ya busia au bungoma. the chopper hanging kind John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:@Horton On a par to par basis and assuming efficiency KCB should be trading at 53. The current price is a huge discount Did you mistype 35 as 53?? Hii ni ile bang ya busia au bungoma. the chopper hanging kind
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2015 Posts: 151
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Horton wrote:talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
Compare with Nic pia.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MadDoc wrote:Horton wrote:talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
Compare with Nic pia. KCB has CS Rotich but EQTY has JM the legend, hence the pricing premium. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:MadDoc wrote:Horton wrote:talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
Compare with Nic pia. KCB has CS Rotich but EQTY has JM the legend, hence the pricing premium. For the longer term, I pick JM over HR. One has skin in the game. The other??? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:MadDoc wrote:Horton wrote:talk about inefficient mr market! EQTY PE-8 vs KCB 5.4 EQTY NAV 19.22 vs KCB 31.5 EQTY EPS 4.38 vs KCB 6.46 EQTY DY 5.88% vs KCB 8.88% EQTY PRICE 34 vs KCB 34
Compare with Nic pia. KCB has CS Rotich but EQTY has JM the legend, hence the pricing premium. @madDoc. Yeah seen that one. Even better, only concern is market share on that one. Cant honestly say I know even 1 person that banks with them. However, still thinking about it. @Sparkly, your words about JM the superstar, I suggest you dig thru history and read up on a cocacola legendary ceo Roberto Goizeuta and the effects of "superstars" I dont think I would buy a company just because the CEO is hulk hogan or some other superstar. Its gotta make sense.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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Equity Bank Acquires Additional 7% Stake in DR Congo Subsidiary for Sh 2.2 Billion http://www.businessdaily...96574-158wtis/index.htmlWealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2015 Posts: 138 Location: Harare
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What is the threshold for material announcements? Article says the additional $20MM stake was acquired during Q316. Or I probably missed initial disclosure? Investment philosophy development in progress...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!
Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Horton wrote:So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!
Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have Healthy scepticism there. But isn't there room for Equity and KCB to both reward investors? You seem to have gripe with EQTY in all your recent posts.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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muganda wrote:Horton wrote:So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!
Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have Healthy scepticism there. But isn't there room for Equity and KCB to both reward investors? You seem to have gripe with EQTY in all your recent posts. "ALL" my recent posts??? Really??? Anyhow....not gripes per say....my first post was comparing it to its peer, KCB and was just curious why it traded at such a premium to its very capable peer. 2nd was trying to figure why they would pay such a premium.....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 977 Location: Kenya
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Horton wrote:So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!
Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have Procredit congo is spending more on expansion and marketing. Profits will be low till they get past 50% coverage of the country. Congo has really bad technological infrastructure. So much investments need to be done.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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watesh wrote:Horton wrote:So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!
Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have Procredit congo is spending more on expansion and marketing. Profits will be low till they get past 50% coverage of the country. Congo has really bad technological infrastructure. So much investments need to began done. Mobile money is key. Expansion through Physical infrastructure in terms of brick and mortar branches is simply impossible. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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Horton wrote:So Procredit PBT 500m, equity valued it at 31.4B almost PE of almost 90!!!!
Granted there is growth, wonder how much FCF they have Sometimes you buy "future" growth. Remember the days when Equity used to grow profits 100% per year? FCF may be negative but it's like Safcom in the early years. Branding, towers, free/cheap "locked" phones & modems, etc. As others have said the expansion efforts are probably driven through Equitel. As long as DRC remains stable (or improves) the payoff could be enormous. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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