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Margret Wambui Kenyatta
wukan
#21 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:57:17 PM
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Impunity wrote:
By the way why did Jomo settled down with a young lass (Mama Ngina) when he already had shudren with other lovable partners?


Mama Ngina was born Ngina Muhoho, daughter of Chief Muhoho wa Gathecha. She married Jomo Kenyatta as his third wife in 1951, a union characterised as a "gift" to Kenyatta from his ethnic group.

Don't ask for detailssmile smile

Impunity
#22 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 1:24:17 PM
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Mtafiti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
@Impunity,

Jomo's white wife was Edna Clarke and no, he bore a son for him (Peter Magana). You are young enough not to know that Peter worked as a radio producer at BBC for quite long. Haven't heard of him for quite a while. Dude must be in his mid 70s or heading to 80.

RIP Margaret and may the family find peace


Was @Edna the first wife OR Wahu?

See, in the 1920s guy were landing left and center while in the 21st century you want to force @Kalasinga to stick to one Rael only, surely guys!

smile smile

I think the order was
1. Wahu(mum to the late Margaret)...Mama Wahu Rd hapo Ngong Rd is named after her. She used to live somewhere there
2.Edna
3.Mbiyu's sister(died while giving birth to Christina Wambui Platt)
4. Ngina

Ati Ngina(Jomo's wife) is 5 years younger than the Late Margaret(Jomo's daughter)!


No. This is Ngina's. Wanjiku Koinange's was called 'Jeni'......


Ho is JKL related to Koinanges and to Kenyattas?
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Impunity
#23 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 1:56:30 PM
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wukan wrote:
Impunity wrote:
By the way why did Jomo settled down with a young lass (Mama Ngina) when he already had shudren with other lovable partners?


Mama Ngina was born Ngina Muhoho, daughter of Chief Muhoho wa Gathecha. She married Jomo Kenyatta as his third wife in 1951, a union characterised as a "gift" to Kenyatta from his ethnic group.

Don't ask for detailssmile smile



Yaani just a gift has given birth to a president?

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

wukan
#24 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:46:06 PM
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Impunity wrote:
wukan wrote:
Impunity wrote:
By the way why did Jomo settled down with a young lass (Mama Ngina) when he already had shudren with other lovable partners?


Mama Ngina was born Ngina Muhoho, daughter of Chief Muhoho wa Gathecha. She married Jomo Kenyatta as his third wife in 1951, a union characterised as a "gift" to Kenyatta from his ethnic group.

Don't ask for detailssmile smile



Yaani just a gift has given birth to a president?



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly It's not the gift but the message it contains/conveys. Gifts mean a lot in power relations. Ever wondered why visiting head of state give each other gifts. European uthamakis used to do this kind of thing marry off a girl to sustain influence. Jomo must have learned this during his stay in the UK where he was sent by the peasants to go and see the queen and present their land grievances.
Lolest!
#25 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:50:42 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
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Mtafiti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
@Impunity,

Jomo's white wife was Edna Clarke and no, he bore a son for him (Peter Magana). You are young enough not to know that Peter worked as a radio producer at BBC for quite long. Haven't heard of him for quite a while. Dude must be in his mid 70s or heading to 80.

RIP Margaret and may the family find peace


Was @Edna the first wife OR Wahu?

See, in the 1920s guy were landing left and center while in the 21st century you want to force @Kalasinga to stick to one Rael only, surely guys!

smile smile

I think the order was
1. Wahu(mum to the late Margaret)...Mama Wahu Rd hapo Ngong Rd is named after her. She used to live somewhere there
2.Edna
3.Mbiyu's sister(died while giving birth to Christina Wambui Platt)
4. Ngina

Ati Ngina(Jomo's wife) is 5 years younger than the Late Margaret(Jomo's daughter)!


No. This is Ngina's. Wanjiku Koinange's was called 'Jeni'......

Jeni is also Makena?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
AlphDoti
#26 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:08:33 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
HE Chief fisi.
Brings us back to the issue of culture

In Jomo's day, it might have been the norm

Today, you hear a Kikuyu man doing the same you think he's a fisi

If culture is what is acceptable, then we must admit it's dynamic.

This thing of over-romanticizing the past and insisting we must go back to our 'culture' is wrong

Because culture is the way we do things NOW

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause exactly... what is acceptable now!! back in the day a guy went ng'ambo for masomo, kazi PAP!! get's a spouse wa kumliwaza huko... hebu jaribu hiyo sasa uone moto!

@lonest, you've really changed. So reasonable nowadays. This is a good post, I'll bookmark it for future reference Applause smile
murchr
#27 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:31:52 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Lolest! wrote:
Mtafiti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
@Impunity,

Jomo's white wife was Edna Clarke and no, he bore a son for him (Peter Magana). You are young enough not to know that Peter worked as a radio producer at BBC for quite long. Haven't heard of him for quite a while. Dude must be in his mid 70s or heading to 80.

RIP Margaret and may the family find peace


Was @Edna the first wife OR Wahu?

See, in the 1920s guy were landing left and center while in the 21st century you want to force @Kalasinga to stick to one Rael only, surely guys!

smile smile

I think the order was
1. Wahu(mum to the late Margaret)...Mama Wahu Rd hapo Ngong Rd is named after her. She used to live somewhere there
2.Edna
3.Mbiyu's sister(died while giving birth to Christina Wambui Platt)
4. Ngina

Ati Ngina(Jomo's wife) is 5 years younger than the Late Margaret(Jomo's daughter)!


No. This is Ngina's. Wanjiku Koinange's was called 'Jeni'......

Jeni is also Makena?


Jeni Wambui Gecaga nee Kenyatta
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
Lolest!
#28 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:38:42 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
HE Chief fisi.
Brings us back to the issue of culture

In Jomo's day, it might have been the norm

Today, you hear a Kikuyu man doing the same you think he's a fisi

If culture is what is acceptable, then we must admit it's dynamic.

This thing of over-romanticizing the past and insisting we must go back to our 'culture' is wrong

Because culture is the way we do things NOW

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause exactly... what is acceptable now!! back in the day a guy went ng'ambo for masomo, kazi PAP!! get's a spouse wa kumliwaza huko... hebu jaribu hiyo sasa uone moto!

@lonest, you've really changed. So reasonable nowadays. This is a good post, I'll bookmark it for future reference Applause smile

I have no issue with Aisha and Muhammad

I know that's why I'm now 'reasonable'
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#29 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:47:45 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
murchr wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Mtafiti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
@Impunity,

Jomo's white wife was Edna Clarke and no, he bore a son for him (Peter Magana). You are young enough not to know that Peter worked as a radio producer at BBC for quite long. Haven't heard of him for quite a while. Dude must be in his mid 70s or heading to 80.

RIP Margaret and may the family find peace


Was @Edna the first wife OR Wahu?

See, in the 1920s guy were landing left and center while in the 21st century you want to force @Kalasinga to stick to one Rael only, surely guys!

smile smile

I think the order was
1. Wahu(mum to the late Margaret)...Mama Wahu Rd hapo Ngong Rd is named after her. She used to live somewhere there
2.Edna
3.Mbiyu's sister(died while giving birth to Christina Wambui Platt)
4. Ngina

Ati Ngina(Jomo's wife) is 5 years younger than the Late Margaret(Jomo's daughter)!


No. This is Ngina's. Wanjiku Koinange's was called 'Jeni'......

Jeni is also Makena?


Jeni Wambui Kenyatta

There was a Makena Wambui somewhere...
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Impunity
#30 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:34:33 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
HE Chief fisi.
Brings us back to the issue of culture

In Jomo's day, it might have been the norm

Today, you hear a Kikuyu man doing the same you think he's a fisi

If culture is what is acceptable, then we must admit it's dynamic.

This thing of over-romanticizing the past and insisting we must go back to our 'culture' is wrong

Because culture is the way we do things NOW

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause exactly... what is acceptable now!! back in the day a guy went ng'ambo for masomo, kazi PAP!! get's a spouse wa kumliwaza huko... hebu jaribu hiyo sasa uone moto!

@lonest, you've really changed. So reasonable nowadays. This is a good post, I'll bookmark it for future reference Applause smile


Now that "TODAY'S CULTURE" is against cutting off the neck of adulterous women, when are going to stop the practice?
When are going to allow your beautiful women to walk with well fitting clothes and not that torturing black kanzu?
When are your women going to walk freely with their beautiful and supple hair hanging freely?

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

AlphDoti
#31 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:59:38 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
HE Chief fisi.
Brings us back to the issue of culture

In Jomo's day, it might have been the norm

Today, you hear a Kikuyu man doing the same you think he's a fisi

If culture is what is acceptable, then we must admit it's dynamic.

This thing of over-romanticizing the past and insisting we must go back to our 'culture' is wrong

Because culture is the way we do things NOW

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause exactly... what is acceptable now!! back in the day a guy went ng'ambo for masomo, kazi PAP!! get's a spouse wa kumliwaza huko... hebu jaribu hiyo sasa uone moto!

@lonest, you've really changed. So reasonable nowadays. This is a good post, I'll bookmark it for future reference Applause smile

Now that "TODAY'S CULTURE" is against cutting off the neck of adulterous women, when are going to stop the practice?
When are going to allow your beautiful women to walk with well fitting clothes and not that torturing black kanzu?
When are your women going to walk freely with their beautiful and supple hair hanging freely?

No one will insist that you follow anyone's culture. You're obsessed with emancipated women who think walking around naked and having abortions is controlling their body.
AlphDoti
#32 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:02:31 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
HE Chief fisi.
Brings us back to the issue of culture

In Jomo's day, it might have been the norm

Today, you hear a Kikuyu man doing the same you think he's a fisi

If culture is what is acceptable, then we must admit it's dynamic.

This thing of over-romanticizing the past and insisting we must go back to our 'culture' is wrong

Because culture is the way we do things NOW

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause exactly... what is acceptable now!! back in the day a guy went ng'ambo for masomo, kazi PAP!! get's a spouse wa kumliwaza huko... hebu jaribu hiyo sasa uone moto!

@lonest, you've really changed. So reasonable nowadays. This is a good post, I'll bookmark it for future reference Applause smile

I have no issue with Aisha and Muhammad

I know that's why I'm now 'reasonable'

Thank you. and as you put it: Because culture is the way we do things.
murchr
#33 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:07:19 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Mtafiti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
@Impunity,

Jomo's white wife was Edna Clarke and no, he bore a son for him (Peter Magana). You are young enough not to know that Peter worked as a radio producer at BBC for quite long. Haven't heard of him for quite a while. Dude must be in his mid 70s or heading to 80.

RIP Margaret and may the family find peace


Was @Edna the first wife OR Wahu?

See, in the 1920s guy were landing left and center while in the 21st century you want to force @Kalasinga to stick to one Rael only, surely guys!

smile smile

I think the order was
1. Wahu(mum to the late Margaret)...Mama Wahu Rd hapo Ngong Rd is named after her. She used to live somewhere there
2.Edna
3.Mbiyu's sister(died while giving birth to Christina Wambui Platt)
4. Ngina

Ati Ngina(Jomo's wife) is 5 years younger than the Late Margaret(Jomo's daughter)!


No. This is Ngina's. Wanjiku Koinange's was called 'Jeni'......


Jeni is also Makena?


Jeni Wambui Gecaga nee Kenyatta


There was a Makena Wambui somewhere...


Every wife who bore a daughter had a Wambui(Wamboi)

Margaret Wambui Kenyatta - Grace Wahu

Jeni Wambui Gecaga Nee Kenyatta - Grace Wanjiku Kenyatta nee Koinange

Christina Wambui Pratt Nee Kenyatta - Mama Ngina
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mtafiti
#34 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 8:10:17 AM
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Joined: 5/22/2014
Posts: 321
Location: Ndeiya
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Mtafiti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
@Impunity,

Jomo's white wife was Edna Clarke and no, he bore a son for him (Peter Magana). You are young enough not to know that Peter worked as a radio producer at BBC for quite long. Haven't heard of him for quite a while. Dude must be in his mid 70s or heading to 80.

RIP Margaret and may the family find peace


Was @Edna the first wife OR Wahu?

See, in the 1920s guy were landing left and center while in the 21st century you want to force @Kalasinga to stick to one Rael only, surely guys!

smile smile

I think the order was
1. Wahu(mum to the late Margaret)...Mama Wahu Rd hapo Ngong Rd is named after her. She used to live somewhere there
2.Edna
3.Mbiyu's sister(died while giving birth to Christina Wambui Platt)
4. Ngina

Ati Ngina(Jomo's wife) is 5 years younger than the Late Margaret(Jomo's daughter)!


No. This is Ngina's. Wanjiku Koinange's was called 'Jeni'......

Jeni is also Makena?


Jeni Wambui Kenyatta

There was a Makena Wambui somewhere...


Not in Kenyattas. Perhaps you confused with Magana, a son.

Makenas are in vaite-land. Go looking there.
Lolest!
#35 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 10:22:28 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Quote:
 When
Kenyatta was arrested in 1952, he had left Mama Ngina with
two toddlers, both girls. Jane Makena Wambui's mother, a sister
to Mbiyu Koinange, had been married to Jomo Kenyatta, but
she tragically died after giving birth.
Upon marriage, Mama Ngina inherited Makena Wambui. She
then gave birth to her own first child, Christine Wambui. When
Mama Ngina was jailed by the colonialists for "subversive"
work, she took her two girls to jail with her.

http://www.ipsos.co.ke/N...y%20Nation_35_8be16.pdf
Quote:
Not in Kenyattas. Perhaps you confused with Magana, a son.

Makenas are in vaite-land. Go looking there.
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