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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Chaka wrote:Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
Shiko atashangaa when now he wants to trade bond. Reality checks in  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
Shiko atashangaa when now he wants to trade bond. Reality checks in What will be the issue then?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Will it be possible to trade the bond in the sec. market via phone? Taurrus wrote:
What will be the issue then?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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What happens if I lose my number Foresight..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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gatoho wrote:What happens if I lose my number Not to worry. CDS is the main thing. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
Shiko atashangaa when now he wants to trade bond. Reality checks in What will be the issue then? tell us Angie punda amecheka
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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newfarer wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
Shiko atashangaa when now he wants to trade bond. Reality checks in What will be the issue then? tell us Angie Haircut 101. Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Gatheuzi wrote:newfarer wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
Shiko atashangaa when now he wants to trade bond. Reality checks in What will be the issue then? tell us Angie Haircut 101. The bond is for 3 years. I assume that many will not be able to hold the bond to maturity ...April 2020. Do they know the process of selling bonds and the intrigues/dynamics therein? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Angelica _ann wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:newfarer wrote:Taurrus wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:Yaani Wanjiku's turn to eat..? obiero wrote:
On grounds of ethical principle, I will keep off this m-akiba thing. It's however not a bad offer, as an investment
Shiko atashangaa when now he wants to trade bond. Reality checks in What will be the issue then? tell us Angie Haircut 101. The bond is for 3 years. I assume that many will not be able to hold the bond to maturity ...April 2020. Do they know the process of selling bonds and the intrigues/dynamics therein? Wanjikonomics are very different. It is we Wanjikus that form the bulk of the SACCO deposits. These SACCO deposits are majority held to maturity (saving in perpetuity with no possibility of withdrawal - other than a fraction LOAN here and there). Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone else in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker,should she wish to sell.. newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing.... Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing.... Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs. We have old school brokers who don't want stress...  To them having massive accounts is just a headache... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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maka wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing.... Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs. We have old school brokers who don't want stress... To them having massive accounts is just a headache... so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years????? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing.... Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs. We have old school brokers who don't want stress... To them having massive accounts is just a headache... so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years????? Kinyozi pap! Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Chaka wrote:I am thinking as follows: Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange for an agreed amount ( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker newfarer wrote:Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing.... Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs. We have old school brokers who don't want stress... To them having massive accounts is just a headache... so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years????? Kinyozi pap! Really depends where the demand for that specific m akiba bond is...but il ask you a simple question why would I as an FM or even broker buy m akiba at 10% net when i can get an IFB paying 11 or 12 % coupon at a yield of 13.20 to 13.50?every extra basis points count towards my return at the end of the day... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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Pesa Nane wrote:gatoho wrote:What happens if I lose my number Not to worry. CDS is the main thing. Oh I was Thinking CDS wasn't required ati you just need a mpesa ac Foresight..
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