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obiero
#621 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 7:12:25 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,890
Location: nairobi
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

@horton useless gut feelings by people like @vvs are prevalent.. Simba is strong

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.76; MTN ABP 5.20
VituVingiSana
#622 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 8:40:05 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,255
Location: Nairobi
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

One doesn't need to own 50%+1 shares of a firm to control it as long as you have enough shares or voting power to outvote the others. Think Vodafone in Safaricom. Then there's the question of significant influence. Even the IAS/IFRS acknowledges that 25% offers significant influence and more so if you are the largest shareholder. KCB has consistently understated its LLPs (above the line vs below the line) when using CBK's methodology. My first port of call is always the Disclosures. I may be wrong but let's see what happens. Do note that KCB remains a TBTF bank so GoK/CBK will always step in.

On KQ, I made an error and ignored signs of management cooking the books. When I realized the cooking, I started selling out. The Rights Issue was the final straw. For KCB, the Scrip Dividend made no sense. Why pay a cash dividend when it needed cash. KCB raised very little from the Scrip Dividend but it cost a lot to go through with it.

James Mwangi has a stake worth billions in Equity that he wishes to protect.

Naikuni & KQ's Board (except GoK but not its appointees) had an almost zero stake in KQ. They wanted perks & bonuses. Even Segman had options not shares in KK. They started making decisions to boost profits by any means possible. Gambling.

What does Oigara make annually? What's his stake in KCB worth? Is his bonus based on sustainable profitability or just current profits which can be manipulated in the short-term?

Again, I may be wrong but post-Naikuni & post-Segman, I find skepticism, research & introspection helpful in avoiding losses. Good luck!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#623 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 9:10:09 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,890
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

One doesn't need to own 50%+1 shares of a firm to control it as long as you have enough shares or voting power to outvote the others. Think Vodafone in Safaricom. Then there's the question of significant influence. Even the IAS/IFRS acknowledges that 25% offers significant influence and more so if you are the largest shareholder. KCB has consistently understated its LLPs (above the line vs below the line) when using CBK's methodology. My first port of call is always the Disclosures. I may be wrong but let's see what happens. Do note that KCB remains a TBTF bank so GoK/CBK will always step in.

On KQ, I made an error and ignored signs of management cooking the books. When I realized the cooking, I started selling out. The Rights Issue was the final straw. For KCB, the Scrip Dividend made no sense. Why pay a cash dividend when it needed cash. KCB raised very little from the Scrip Dividend but it cost a lot to go through with it.

James Mwangi has a stake worth billions in Equity that he wishes to protect.

Naikuni & KQ's Board (except GoK but not its appointees) had an almost zero stake in KQ. They wanted perks & bonuses. Even Segman had options not shares in KK. They started making decisions to boost profits by any means possible. Gambling.

What does Oigara make annually? What's his stake in KCB worth? Is his bonus based on sustainable profitability or just current profits which can be manipulated in the short-term?

Again, I may be wrong but post-Naikuni & post-Segman, I find skepticism, research & introspection helpful in avoiding losses. Good luck!

@wazuans it is such thinking that keeps Africans poor.. Ghost chases and petrified investing

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.76; MTN ABP 5.20
Ericsson
#624 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 9:10:39 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,786
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

One doesn't need to own 50%+1 shares of a firm to control it as long as you have enough shares or voting power to outvote the others. Think Vodafone in Safaricom. Then there's the question of significant influence. Even the IAS/IFRS acknowledges that 25% offers significant influence and more so if you are the largest shareholder. KCB has consistently understated its LLPs (above the line vs below the line) when using CBK's methodology. My first port of call is always the Disclosures. I may be wrong but let's see what happens. Do note that KCB remains a TBTF bank so GoK/CBK will always step in.

On KQ, I made an error and ignored signs of management cooking the books. When I realized the cooking, I started selling out. The Rights Issue was the final straw. For KCB, the Scrip Dividend made no sense. Why pay a cash dividend when it needed cash. KCB raised very little from the Scrip Dividend but it cost a lot to go through with it.

James Mwangi has a stake worth billions in Equity that he wishes to protect.

Naikuni & KQ's Board (except GoK but not its appointees) had an almost zero stake in KQ. They wanted perks & bonuses. Even Segman had options not shares in KK. They started making decisions to boost profits by any means possible. Gambling.

What does Oigara make annually? What's his stake in KCB worth? Is his bonus based on sustainable profitability or just current profits which can be manipulated in the short-term?

Again, I may be wrong but post-Naikuni & post-Segman, I find skepticism, research & introspection helpful in avoiding losses. Good luck!


@VVS
You really hate KCB.I don't know what wrong it did to you.
Secondly KCB has beaten Equity Bank pants down;James Mwangi has been unable to overtake KCB in terms of PBT and reasons without basis will always be given that oohh KCB cooked books better than Equity.
One thing that's a fact is that pre-rate cap KCB loans were always cheaper than equity;Equity now feeling the heat.

Do you think James Mwangi is managing the bank for the best interests of the shareholders.I don't think so;otherwise why did he start an unnecessary war with safaricom.Ego issues have come to cost him.
During the release of FY2016 results I never heard him mention anything about Equitel.
That tells the story.
He went to DRC without doing proper maths;now DRC is bleeding money
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Spikes
#625 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 9:26:47 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

One doesn't need to own 50%+1 shares of a firm to control it as long as you have enough shares or voting power to outvote the others. Think Vodafone in Safaricom. Then there's the question of significant influence. Even the IAS/IFRS acknowledges that 25% offers significant influence and more so if you are the largest shareholder. KCB has consistently understated its LLPs (above the line vs below the line) when using CBK's methodology. My first port of call is always the Disclosures. I may be wrong but let's see what happens. Do note that KCB remains a TBTF bank so GoK/CBK will always step in.

On KQ, I made an error and ignored signs of management cooking the books. When I realized the cooking, I started selling out. The Rights Issue was the final straw. For KCB, the Scrip Dividend made no sense. Why pay a cash dividend when it needed cash. KCB raised very little from the Scrip Dividend but it cost a lot to go through with it.

James Mwangi has a stake worth billions in Equity that he wishes to protect.

Naikuni & KQ's Board (except GoK but not its appointees) had an almost zero stake in KQ. They wanted perks & bonuses. Even Segman had options not shares in KK. They started making decisions to boost profits by any means possible. Gambling.

What does Oigara make annually? What's his stake in KCB worth? Is his bonus based on sustainable profitability or just current profits which can be manipulated in the short-term?

Again, I may be wrong but post-Naikuni & post-Segman, I find skepticism, research & introspection helpful in avoiding losses. Good luck!

@wazuans it is such thinking that keeps Africans poor.. Ghost chases and petrified investing

Today I have discovered why @ Obiero and @ vvs differ greatly. One is a trader and the other is an investor. Traders concentrate on TA while investors spearhead FA ideology. But their perspectives are both valid coz each intent is satisfied.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
VituVingiSana
#626 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 11:09:48 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,255
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

One doesn't need to own 50%+1 shares of a firm to control it as long as you have enough shares or voting power to outvote the others. Think Vodafone in Safaricom. Then there's the question of significant influence. Even the IAS/IFRS acknowledges that 25% offers significant influence and more so if you are the largest shareholder. KCB has consistently understated its LLPs (above the line vs below the line) when using CBK's methodology. My first port of call is always the Disclosures. I may be wrong but let's see what happens. Do note that KCB remains a TBTF bank so GoK/CBK will always step in.

On KQ, I made an error and ignored signs of management cooking the books. When I realized the cooking, I started selling out. The Rights Issue was the final straw. For KCB, the Scrip Dividend made no sense. Why pay a cash dividend when it needed cash. KCB raised very little from the Scrip Dividend but it cost a lot to go through with it.

James Mwangi has a stake worth billions in Equity that he wishes to protect.

Naikuni & KQ's Board (except GoK but not its appointees) had an almost zero stake in KQ. They wanted perks & bonuses. Even Segman had options not shares in KK. They started making decisions to boost profits by any means possible. Gambling.

What does Oigara make annually? What's his stake in KCB worth? Is his bonus based on sustainable profitability or just current profits which can be manipulated in the short-term?

Again, I may be wrong but post-Naikuni & post-Segman, I find skepticism, research & introspection helpful in avoiding losses. Good luck!


@VVS
You really hate KCB.I don't know what wrong it did to you.
Secondly KCB has beaten Equity Bank pants down;James Mwangi has been unable to overtake KCB in terms of PBT and reasons without basis will always be given that oohh KCB cooked books better than Equity.
One thing that's a fact is that pre-rate cap KCB loans were always cheaper than equity;Equity now feeling the heat.

Do you think James Mwangi is managing the bank for the best interests of the shareholders.I don't think so;otherwise why did he start an unnecessary war with safaricom.Ego issues have come to cost him.
During the release of FY2016 results I never heard him mention anything about Equitel.
That tells the story.
He went to DRC without doing proper maths;now DRC is bleeding money

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
muandiwambeu
#627 Posted : Monday, March 20, 2017 11:29:25 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
There is something about KCB that worries me. I do not trust their numbers. I think the CBK & Treasury are protecting KCB but the rot will show up some time!

If KCB went through a thorough review of all its loans, I think the NPLs will jump. My gut feeling.

See how this guy makes wazuans miss out on the right buses

Lipstick on a pig. Nothing has changed. If not today then tomorrow. Good luck.


This is one stock where you veer from your fact based approach. Is it the management you don't trust or is it just irrational bias?

Management & GoK's influence.Except for KenRe I stay away from GoK firms. It's a gut feeling. I may be wrong. It's not like Safcom (run by Vodafone) where it's the only choice in a rapidly growing sector. I have choices like Equity, NIC, I&M, StanChart, BBK, Co-op, etc. For obvious reasons I don't have NBK on the list. Good luck!

After losing money in KQ, any firm in which GoK has a significant stake needs to be looked at twice. Perhaps my "fear of GoK" is irrational but so far it has saved me lots of money post-KQ. EAPCC vs Bamburi (even ARM > EAPCC). NBK vs any listed bank. The list is long but includes Uchumi, KPLC and KenGen. There's always an undercurrent that concerns me. Inflated tenders, political godfathers, favored appointments, etc.

I have explained why I stick with KenRe in other threads BUT a whiff of stink and I will bail.

The saving grace for KCB is its TBTF status and GoK/KCB will step in to protect it by bending the rules or offering equity/loans.

But I like to sleep at night.

Government does not own more than 50% of Safcom or KCB...so technically, it does not control those companies despite the huge influence by virtue of the number of shares.


VVS u have been in this business for as long as a lot of us have. Im sure u understand gut feelings are mostly dangerous. Remember the stock ( the one obiero loves) that u fell in love with last and where lots of guts were involved too?

One doesn't need to own 50%+1 shares of a firm to control it as long as you have enough shares or voting power to outvote the others. Think Vodafone in Safaricom. Then there's the question of significant influence. Even the IAS/IFRS acknowledges that 25% offers significant influence and more so if you are the largest shareholder. KCB has consistently understated its LLPs (above the line vs below the line) when using CBK's methodology. My first port of call is always the Disclosures. I may be wrong but let's see what happens. Do note that KCB remains a TBTF bank so GoK/CBK will always step in.

On KQ, I made an error and ignored signs of management cooking the books. When I realized the cooking, I started selling out. The Rights Issue was the final straw. For KCB, the Scrip Dividend made no sense. Why pay a cash dividend when it needed cash. KCB raised very little from the Scrip Dividend but it cost a lot to go through with it.

James Mwangi has a stake worth billions in Equity that he wishes to protect.

Naikuni & KQ's Board (except GoK but not its appointees) had an almost zero stake in KQ. They wanted perks & bonuses. Even Segman had options not shares in KK. They started making decisions to boost profits by any means possible. Gambling.

What does Oigara make annually? What's his stake in KCB worth? Is his bonus based on sustainable profitability or just current profits which can be manipulated in the short-term?

Again, I may be wrong but post-Naikuni & post-Segman, I find skepticism, research & introspection helpful in avoiding losses. Good luck!

I fully agree with @vvs.
Control= 1. 50%+1 vote in any meeting
2. Appointing majority directors in Agm
3. Ability to influence majority knq
decisions made in any meeting eg KLM at knq
Hiyo ingine ni porojo tupu.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#628 Posted : Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:30:03 AM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
hisah wrote:
Equity and KCB in a tight race to the bottom smile

These two will lock in several traders. I may as well brand them the dynamic duos.

Will be in teens soon smile

What we are seeing right now are known as once in a lifetime opportunities

Monday January 30th.. In less than 2 months, a reasonable leap has set in.. Wale wa KES 15 per share can wait a little longer

COOP ABP 15.85; IMH ABP 35.55; KQ ABP 5.76; MTN ABP 5.20
mlennyma
#629 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:37:00 AM
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The lion left
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
hisah
#630 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:25:03 AM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Here comes the 33 handle test. Quite impressive! Support at 23-25 level has formed a floor.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Metasploit
#631 Posted : Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:41:22 PM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 985
Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
hisah wrote:
Here comes the 33 handle test. Quite impressive! Support at 23-25 level has formed a floor.


Lets watch the pullback..At overbought levels and a breather already set in at 32.But a strong trendline has been set

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wa P
#632 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:38:37 AM
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This story does not read well.
Where were they during the bank's bear runSad Sad

Legal experts in the house...please confirm our 3/= is still safe.

http://theinformer.co.ke...b-software-piracy-claim/
Spikes
#633 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:48:54 AM
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[quote=wa P]This story does not read well.
Where were they during the bank's bear runSad Sad

Legal experts in the house...please confirm our 3/= is still safe.

http://theinformer.co.ke...-software-piracy-claim/[/quote]
This news will have little impact on the share price coz KCB's too big to fail status.
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#634 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:02:31 AM
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[quote=wa P]This story does not read well.
Where were they during the bank's bear runSad Sad

Legal experts in the house...please confirm our 3/= is still safe.

http://theinformer.co.ke...-software-piracy-claim/[/quote]

Link pulled down?
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Speculz
#635 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:05:08 AM
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Flo-ology wrote:
[quote=wa P]This story does not read well.
Where were they during the bank's bear runSad Sad

Legal experts in the house...please confirm our 3/= is still safe.

http://theinformer.co.ke...-software-piracy-claim/[/quote]

Link pulled down?


http://theinformer.co.ke...-software-piracy-claim/

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Sir invest
#636 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:51:22 PM
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Today somebody disposed 222,400 KCB Shares @ 13.85 or what am i seeing!!!!
maka
#637 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:01:31 PM
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Sir invest wrote:
Today somebody disposed 222,400 KCB Shares @ 13.85 or what am i seeing!!!!


How is that even possible Sir?
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karasinga
#638 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:02:46 PM
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Sir invest wrote:
Today somebody disposed 222,400 KCB Shares @ 13.85 or what am i seeing!!!!

share your source... Link. from my end a low of 32
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#639 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:52:34 PM
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karasinga wrote:
Sir invest wrote:
Today somebody disposed 222,400 KCB Shares @ 13.85 or what am i seeing!!!!

share your source... Link. from my end a low of 32

Usual @Rich errors
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#640 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 4:02:45 PM
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Sir Invest is a new farer.Let him go through the posts and get to learn how things work.
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