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Blaming the Jews - BBC documentary
Ngalaka
#21 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 8:22:56 PM
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indoctrination is a powerful tool.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
AlphDoti
#22 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 8:57:14 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
Why is my name being mentioned all over the place!?

What's the hysteria about jamenid'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

@nandwa, it speaks for itself, isn't?







AlphDoti
#23 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 9:05:35 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
indoctrination is a powerful tool.

Liv
#24 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 9:41:05 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
This joke of a documentary has been around for quite a while.

It's all well and good to portray the Jewish people as victims of racial and religious intolerance. On the other hand Israel is guilty of engaging in apartheid and war crimes in Palestine.

You are right @chemirocha. I wonder what @liv expected from a 3 year old, or the mother of children suffering in Palestin and Syria?

These are but a few examples of the scenes these children are seeing each day... Pray Sad











You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.
chemirocha
#25 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 10:19:12 PM
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Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.
tycho
#26 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:08:42 AM
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I now have little doubt that Kenia- land of horns/tusks/ivory- was intended for Jewish settlement. One place being mentioned over and over is Guas Ngishu later Uasin Gishu.

@AlphDoti, I have reason to believe that you're criticism of the 'European Jews' is tinged with the Islamic and more precisely, the drive by the prophet to show 'authentic' Jewish origins.

All I can say at the moment is that we need to go beyond propaganda and trite expressions when considering this issue.
AlphDoti
#27 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:13:35 AM
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tycho wrote:
I now have little doubt that Kenia- land of horns/tusks/ivory- was intended for Jewish settlement. One place being mentioned over and over is Guas Ngishu later Uasin Gishu.

@AlphDoti, I have reason to believe that you're criticism of the 'European Jews' is tinged with the Islamic and more precisely, the drive by the prophet to show 'authentic' Jewish origins.

All I can say at the moment is that we need to go beyond propaganda and trite expressions when considering this issue.

@tycho, have you read about the Khazars? Find your own source of 'authentic' materials and let us know... pliz
tycho
#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:50:54 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
I now have little doubt that Kenia- land of horns/tusks/ivory- was intended for Jewish settlement. One place being mentioned over and over is Guas Ngishu later Uasin Gishu.

@AlphDoti, I have reason to believe that you're criticism of the 'European Jews' is tinged with the Islamic and more precisely, the drive by the prophet to show 'authentic' Jewish origins.

All I can say at the moment is that we need to go beyond propaganda and trite expressions when considering this issue.

@tycho, have you read about the Khazars? Find your own source of 'authentic' materials and let us know... pliz


I've checked on the Khazars. Some several days ago actually. I even went as far as the Illyrians who, are somehow connected at least textually to Illyias the man supposed to be Mohammed's ancestor.

The Khazari argument as presented by many is hardly conclusive and appears to be biased to a large measure against the Jews.



Nandwa
#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:06:00 AM
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The King of Jordan decided to tap into peace and steadily steered his Country out of the dogma driven cycle of violence which was counterproductive.
Quote:
After the shooting, Jordan's King Hussein — the late father of the current king, Abdullah II — rushed to Israel and paid condolence visits to the girls' families, a gesture that touched many Israelis at the time.

Fatihi recalled Hussein's condolence visit, saying he and his family had been sitting on the floor in mourning at the time and that the monarch knelt down next to them. "We told him we really appreciated his visit," Fatihi said.


Israel and Jordan cooperate closely on security matters, including in the battle against Islamic extremism, even if their 1994 peace treaty remains widely unpopular in Jordan where many residents have Palestinian roots.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Anti_Burglar
#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:33:47 AM
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chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.



Kindly refrain from regurgitating MSM infor. The other day Saudi Arabia warplanes bombed a funeral in Yemen and killed mourners. Of course it did not appear in the news. Quite convenient as pictures could then be used for accusing the less liked side. Asking for a little bit more proof is absolutely reasonable and is but the sign of a very good grasp of global issues.
Anti_Burglar
#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:38:29 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
indoctrination is a powerful tool.




Then let the Saudi Arabians, the ones who are safe custodians of the objects of Islamic worship, take the lead in helping fellow Muslims!

Wait, they are busy killing other Muslims in Yemen and will even allegedly grant airspace for Israelis to attack fellow Muslims of Iran.
tycho
#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:51:27 AM
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Why again, was Hitler a bad guy?

Now and then you'll see a picture of the British queen making a Nazi salute. Neo-nazism and anti semitism are high even now. Why is that?

Yet, the British behaved just like Hitler even here in Kenya. Hitler seems to be in Gaza. Even Kenyans themselves can quickly turn into Hitlers. Picture the people burning-being gassed- in Kiambaa during PEV.

Hitler was bad because he, apparently, was against the Jews. That was his crime, and his use was to fuel the creation of a Jewish state.
chemirocha
#33 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:00:33 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.



Kindly refrain from regurgitating MSM infor. The other day Saudi Arabia warplanes bombed a funeral in Yemen and killed mourners. Of course it did not appear in the news. Quite convenient as pictures could then be used for accusing the less liked side. Asking for a little bit more proof is absolutely reasonable and is but the sign of a very good grasp of global issues.


Condemnation of the illegal occupation of Palestine is not mutually exclusive with shady Saudi geopolitics. Shame on you

As to my original statement, why should I provide additional evidence when official Israeli government policy promotes racial and religious intolerance?
Anti_Burglar
#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:27:48 AM
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chemirocha wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.



Kindly refrain from regurgitating MSM infor. The other day Saudi Arabia warplanes bombed a funeral in Yemen and killed mourners. Of course it did not appear in the news. Quite convenient as pictures could then be used for accusing the less liked side. Asking for a little bit more proof is absolutely reasonable and is but the sign of a very good grasp of global issues.


Condemnation of the illegal occupation of Palestine is not mutually exclusive with shady Saudi geopolitics. Shame on you

As to my original statement, why should I provide additional evidence when official Israeli government policy promotes racial and religious intolerance?


Was it you to provide additional evidence? Why do you want to take a bullet not meant for you? To what end? They will not recogonise your sacrifice. Let alone the poster of the children to fulfill the request and to take up any follow up accusations, if he can.
Ngalaka
#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:44:00 AM
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chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.

Not true!
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
AlphDoti
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:07:56 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.

Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.

Kindly refrain from regurgitating MSM infor. The other day Saudi Arabia warplanes bombed a funeral in Yemen and killed mourners. Of course it did not appear in the news. Quite convenient as pictures could then be used for accusing the less liked side. Asking for a little bit more proof is absolutely reasonable and is but the sign of a very good grasp of global issues.

Condemnation of the illegal occupation of Palestine is not mutually exclusive with shady Saudi geopolitics. Shame on you

As to my original statement, why should I provide additional evidence when official Israeli government policy promotes racial and religious intolerance?

Was it you to provide additional evidence? Why do you want to take a bullet not meant for you? To what end? They will not recogonise your sacrifice. Let alone the poster of the children to fulfill the request and to take up any follow up accusations, if he can.

It doesn't matter who response to you. There are still some sincere people in the world. Unfortunately, some like yourself are allergic to facts and continue with macho sycophancy and sabotaged mentality... What the oppressor says is truth.

People waking up and recognizing the true position of racist Jews or Israel.
chemirocha
#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:14:10 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.

Not true!


Seriously? Just last year an IDF medic was on trial for shooting a "neutralised" assailant in the head. Netanyahu and the military were labelled traitors by the Jewish right wing groups.

Link: Evidence indicates West Bank killing was extrajudicial execution

Also Unjustified use of lethal force and execution of Palestinians who stabbed or were suspected of attempted stabbings
Liv
#38 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:17:31 AM
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chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.


Do you know how the walls came about? What would the Israelis do to protect themselves from daily bombs and terrorism in their cities?
Do you know the Palestinians have self rule in gaza and west bank? Where is apartheid there?
Do you know that there are Arabs in the Israeli parliament? Do you know what is apartheid?
Do you know that the Arab countries in middle east have more land , I guess more the 1000 times the size of Israel land? Why haven't they settled their Muslim brothers in Palestine there if they care!?

Who is the ignorant one here?

Liv
#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:36:57 AM
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chemirocha wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.

Not true!



Seriously? Just last year an IDF medic was on trial for shooting a "neutralised" assailant in the head. Netanyahu and the military were labelled traitors by the Jewish right wing groups.

Link: Evidence indicates West Bank killing was extrajudicial execution

Also Unjustified use of lethal force and execution of Palestinians who stabbed or were suspected of attempted stabbings


Surely you already confirm there is a legal self governed system in Israel that prevents such atrocities against innocent people....unlike the Palestinians and those militant Muslims who believe in killing everyone.
Ngalaka
#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 14, 2017 11:53:05 AM
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chemirocha wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Liv wrote:


You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.


Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require?

Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.

Not true!


Seriously? Just last year an IDF medic was on trial for shooting a "neutralised" assailant in the head. Netanyahu and the military were labelled traitors by the Jewish right wing groups.

Link: Evidence indicates West Bank killing was extrajudicial execution

Also Unjustified use of lethal force and execution of Palestinians who stabbed or were suspected of attempted stabbings

Soldier tried and Jailed by Israeli authorities!
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