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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:The people slashing the girl claim to do it as per their enterpretation of Islam, the same people deny women the right to drive or go out alone while citing Islam. Those who join and fight for ISIS, al shabab, boko haram all claim it to be consistent with Islam. From those people the real effects Islam that the world can not ignore are felt.
So there is that interpretation, then there is the alternative.
Which is which.
In the meantime blood continues to be spilled! Even parrots talks...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:The people slashing the girl claim to do it as per their enterpretation of Islam, the same people deny women the right to drive or go out alone while citing Islam. Those who join and fight for ISIS, al shabab, boko haram all claim it to be consistent with Islam. From those people the real effects Islam that the world can not ignore are felt.
So there is that interpretation, then there is the alternative.
Which is which.
In the meantime blood continues to be spilled! Even parrots talks... Escapist Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/25/2008 Posts: 510
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Quran’s verse 5:32 “For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s sovereignty), but afterwards lo! Many of them become prodigals of the earth.” I don't know what manslaughter or corruption means in that context but the latter parts are fair enough I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:The people slashing the girl claim to do it as per their enterpretation of Islam, the same people deny women the right to drive or go out alone while citing Islam. Those who join and fight for ISIS, al shabab, boko haram all claim it to be consistent with Islam. From those people the real effects Islam that the world can not ignore are felt.
So there is that interpretation, then there is the alternative.
Which is which.
In the meantime blood continues to be spilled! Even parrots talks... Escapist 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:hamburglar wrote:Mike Ock wrote:These radical groups exist in all religions. The enemy is not Islam, it's fundamentalism. Mike. If there were no religions there would not be fundamentalists. That's my point. Those two are not mutually exclusive. You will never hear of violent atheist fundamentalists. @ham, Dictionary Definition of ‘fundamentalist’ A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. 1. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practice the fundamentals of medicine. 2. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of mathematics. 3. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of science. IMPORTANT: He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science, or medicine or mathematics. Read more here about my response on this... Liar liar! fundamentalist[fuhn-duh-men-tl-ist] noun 1. an adherent of fundamentalism, a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts: radical fundamentalists. Used as a noun that is the meaning of phundamentalist. Hizo definition zako ni zako, peleka kwako.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,582
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hamburglar wrote:Mike Ock wrote:These radical groups exist in all religions. The enemy is not Islam, it's fundamentalism. Mike. If there were no religions there would not be fundamentalists. That's my point. Those two are not mutually exclusive. You will never hear of violent atheist fundamentalists. @ham, Dictionary Definition of ‘fundamentalist’ A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. 1. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practice the fundamentals of medicine. 2. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of mathematics. 3. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of science. IMPORTANT: He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science, or medicine or mathematics. Read more here about my response on this... belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts: Wow the definition fits the idiots exactly, people kow their jobs hata kama nikuandika dictionary, LANGUAGE and understanding are a huge problem!  many of the idiots running around hardly understand literature, phonetics, phonology, syntax, translations, symbolism e.t.c and are hardly "literate" FOOLS who make "LITERAL" interpretation, rendering the religious writings in the hands of idiots totally idiotic. Very much agree! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hamburglar wrote:Mike Ock wrote:These radical groups exist in all religions. The enemy is not Islam, it's fundamentalism. Mike. If there were no religions there would not be fundamentalists. That's my point. Those two are not mutually exclusive. You will never hear of violent atheist fundamentalists. @ham, Dictionary Definition of ‘fundamentalist’ A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. 1. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practice the fundamentals of medicine. 2. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of mathematics. 3. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of science. IMPORTANT: He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science, or medicine or mathematics. Read more here about my response on this... Liar liar! fundamentalist[fuhn-duh-men-tl-ist] noun 1. an adherent of fundamentalism, a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts: radical fundamentalists. Used as a noun that is the meaning of phundamentalist. Hizo definition zako ni zako, peleka kwako. @anti_burglar, you harbour misconceptions about Islam.. and this has made you consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. Take for example this issue of definition. Due to your insufficient knowledge, you quickly shouted "Liar Liar". Look at the meaning according to Webster’s dictionary: Webster Definition of fundamentalism
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a often capitalized: a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching
b: the beliefs of this movement
c: adherence to such beliefs a minister noted for his strict fundamentalism
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hamburglar wrote:Mike Ock wrote:These radical groups exist in all religions. The enemy is not Islam, it's fundamentalism. Mike. If there were no religions there would not be fundamentalists. That's my point. Those two are not mutually exclusive. You will never hear of violent atheist fundamentalists. @ham, Dictionary Definition of ‘fundamentalist’ A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. 1. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practice the fundamentals of medicine. 2. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of mathematics. 3. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of science. IMPORTANT: He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science, or medicine or mathematics. Read more here about my response on this... Liar liar! fundamentalist[fuhn-duh-men-tl-ist] noun 1. an adherent of fundamentalism, a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts: radical fundamentalists. Used as a noun that is the meaning of phundamentalist. Hizo definition zako ni zako, peleka kwako. @anti_burglar, you harbour misconceptions about Islam.. and this has made you consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. Take for example this issue of definition. Due to your insufficient knowledge, you quickly shouted "Liar Liar". Look at the meaning according to Webster’s dictionary: Webster Definition of fundamentalism
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a often capitalized: a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching
b: the beliefs of this movement
c: adherence to such beliefs a minister noted for his strict fundamentalism Still, you are a liar and it doesn't change anything, Alphdoti liar.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hamburglar wrote:Mike Ock wrote:These radical groups exist in all religions. The enemy is not Islam, it's fundamentalism. Mike. If there were no religions there would not be fundamentalists. That's my point. Those two are not mutually exclusive. You will never hear of violent atheist fundamentalists. @ham, Dictionary Definition of ‘fundamentalist’ A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. 1. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practice the fundamentals of medicine. 2. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of mathematics. 3. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practice the fundamentals of science. IMPORTANT: He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science, or medicine or mathematics. Read more here about my response on this... Liar liar! fundamentalist[fuhn-duh-men-tl-ist] noun 1. an adherent of fundamentalism, a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts: radical fundamentalists. Used as a noun that is the meaning of phundamentalist. Hizo definition zako ni zako, peleka kwako. @anti_burglar, you harbour misconceptions about Islam.. and this has made you consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. Take for example this issue of definition. Due to your insufficient knowledge, you quickly shouted "Liar Liar". Look at the meaning according to Webster’s dictionary: Webster Definition of fundamentalism
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a often capitalized: a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching
b: the beliefs of this movement
c: adherence to such beliefs a minister noted for his strict fundamentalism Still, you are a liar and it doesn't change anything, Alphdoti liar. @anti_burglar, how am i a liar... People here can read and they have a brain. You rhetorically calling someone a liar doesn't necessarily be so, unless you can show the lie.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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What is the point of engaging people in round circles and denial games!! I am certain anybody literate enough to be posting in Wazua knows the relevant meaning of fundamentalist - as used and the context of what is in discussion. Therefore those acting to bury their heads in sand should summon a little more honsety and quit hiding in plain sight. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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