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Interference of Average security buying price Alert!!
Gatheuzi
#11 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 7:07:41 AM
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ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
I bought a few Safaricom shares last year at 18.90cts at once after all the charges have been settled. When I checked on the last weeks of January 2017 the price was 19.33cts, then i thought it will recorrect itself after a while since I thought may be it is system error. To DATE the average price is still 19.33cts. my question is could there be someone who has hacked my account and reviewed the average price or there are some new charges that i dont know. WASUA PLEASE HELP I FIND THIS SERIOUS!!

Difference is 2.28% so it must be the commissions. Please rest easy bro. No hacking there.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Gatheuzi,
if you bought 100 BBK shares at 18.00cts then bought the rest at 17.00, 16.00, 13.00, 12.00 then 11.00, 9.00, 8.00, 7.00cts (100SHARES@) then assuming last year the average YOU SAW WAS 12.80cts then how comes this YEAR 2017 THE AVERAGE GOES UP TO 14.48CTS..

Is this after making new purchases? If not then I will simply compute my average price and ignore the system price. While at it, include commisions.
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obiero
#12 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 7:17:22 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
I bought a few Safaricom shares last year at 18.90cts at once after all the charges have been settled. When I checked on the last weeks of January 2017 the price was 19.33cts, then i thought it will recorrect itself after a while since I thought may be it is system error. To DATE the average price is still 19.33cts. my question is could there be someone who has hacked my account and reviewed the average price or there are some new charges that i dont know. WASUA PLEASE HELP I FIND THIS SERIOUS!!

Difference is 2.28% so it must be the commissions. Please rest easy bro. No hacking there.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Gatheuzi,
if you bought 100 BBK shares at 18.00cts then bought the rest at 17.00, 16.00, 13.00, 12.00 then 11.00, 9.00, 8.00, 7.00cts (100SHARES@) then assuming last year the average YOU SAW WAS 12.80cts then how comes this YEAR 2017 THE AVERAGE GOES UP TO 14.48CTS..

Is this after making new purchases? If not then I will simply compute my average price and ignore the system price. While at it, include commisions.

Why look at the buy price instead of the number of shares held? Did you not pay for the transactions at the time of purchase?

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ARAP CHARLES
#13 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 9:16:22 AM
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obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
I bought a few Safaricom shares last year at 18.90cts at once after all the charges have been settled. When I checked on the last weeks of January 2017 the price was 19.33cts, then i thought it will recorrect itself after a while since I thought may be it is system error. To DATE the average price is still 19.33cts. my question is could there be someone who has hacked my account and reviewed the average price or there are some new charges that i dont know. WASUA PLEASE HELP I FIND THIS SERIOUS!!

Difference is 2.28% so it must be the commissions. Please rest easy bro. No hacking there.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Gatheuzi,
if you bought 100 BBK shares at 18.00cts then bought the rest at 17.00, 16.00, 13.00, 12.00 then 11.00, 9.00, 8.00, 7.00cts (100SHARES@) then assuming last year the average YOU SAW WAS 12.80cts then how comes this YEAR 2017 THE AVERAGE GOES UP TO 14.48CTS..

Is this after making new purchases? If not then I will simply compute my average price and ignore the system price. While at it, include commisions.

Why look at the buy price instead of the number of shares held? Did you not pay for the transactions at the time of purchase?


The prices here are precisely set! when purchasing i clearly saw the trading charges and commissions are well factored. why then is it affecting my average price. BECAUSE as it is as usual when you buy below your average price you are averaging it DOWN same as when you are buying above your average price you are averaging UP!!

When you buy MILK AT 50.00 for example. THE TAXES ARE INCLUSIVE right! after buying the receipt will not show 55.00 it will show you 50.00 with the breakdown of the charges.
if i do my own calculations i will simply be charged 4times in commisions when i buy and sell any security.
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sparkly
#14 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 2:29:42 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
I bought a few Safaricom shares last year at 18.90cts at once after all the charges have been settled. When I checked on the last weeks of January 2017 the price was 19.33cts, then i thought it will recorrect itself after a while since I thought may be it is system error. To DATE the average price is still 19.33cts. my question is could there be someone who has hacked my account and reviewed the average price or there are some new charges that i dont know. WASUA PLEASE HELP I FIND THIS SERIOUS!!

Difference is 2.28% so it must be the commissions. Please rest easy bro. No hacking there.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Gatheuzi,
if you bought 100 BBK shares at 18.00cts then bought the rest at 17.00, 16.00, 13.00, 12.00 then 11.00, 9.00, 8.00, 7.00cts (100SHARES@) then assuming last year the average YOU SAW WAS 12.80cts then how comes this YEAR 2017 THE AVERAGE GOES UP TO 14.48CTS..

Is this after making new purchases? If not then I will simply compute my average price and ignore the system price. While at it, include commisions.

Why look at the buy price instead of the number of shares held? Did you not pay for the transactions at the time of purchase?


The prices here are precisely set! when purchasing i clearly saw the trading charges and commissions are well factored. why then is it affecting my average price. BECAUSE as it is as usual when you buy below your average price you are averaging it DOWN same as when you are buying above your average price you are averaging UP!!

When you buy MILK AT 50.00 for example. THE TAXES ARE INCLUSIVE right! after buying the receipt will not show 55.00 it will show you 50.00 with the breakdown of the charges.
if i do my own calculations i will simply be charged 4times in commisions when i buy and sell any security.


Si you just calculate your Average... what's wrong with you?
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Spikes
#15 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 2:50:44 PM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
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Location: Mombasa
sparkly wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
I bought a few Safaricom shares last year at 18.90cts at once after all the charges have been settled. When I checked on the last weeks of January 2017 the price was 19.33cts, then i thought it will recorrect itself after a while since I thought may be it is system error. To DATE the average price is still 19.33cts. my question is could there be someone who has hacked my account and reviewed the average price or there are some new charges that i dont know. WASUA PLEASE HELP I FIND THIS SERIOUS!!

Difference is 2.28% so it must be the commissions. Please rest easy bro. No hacking there.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Gatheuzi,
if you bought 100 BBK shares at 18.00cts then bought the rest at 17.00, 16.00, 13.00, 12.00 then 11.00, 9.00, 8.00, 7.00cts (100SHARES@) then assuming last year the average YOU SAW WAS 12.80cts then how comes this YEAR 2017 THE AVERAGE GOES UP TO 14.48CTS..

Is this after making new purchases? If not then I will simply compute my average price and ignore the system price. While at it, include commisions.

Why look at the buy price instead of the number of shares held? Did you not pay for the transactions at the time of purchase?


The prices here are precisely set! when purchasing i clearly saw the trading charges and commissions are well factored. why then is it affecting my average price. BECAUSE as it is as usual when you buy below your average price you are averaging it DOWN same as when you are buying above your average price you are averaging UP!!

When you buy MILK AT 50.00 for example. THE TAXES ARE INCLUSIVE right! after buying the receipt will not show 55.00 it will show you 50.00 with the breakdown of the charges.
if i do my own calculations i will simply be charged 4times in commisions when i buy and sell any security.


Si you just calculate your Average... what's wrong with you?

Simple mathematics
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ARAP CHARLES
#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:37:05 AM
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Posts: 217
Location: Talai
Thanks people for the ideas... I will revisit my broker today for finer details about this. The information i got from them was.. they will forward this to the IT GUYS. IT IS AN ISSUE. They were not able to interpret why the average was up! Quite fishy. I have done my calculations... but there is this mysterious prices in my portfolio that is why i posted to the wasuans...
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sparkly
#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:45:41 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Thanks people for the ideas... I will revisit my broker today for finer details about this. The information i got from them was.. they will forward this to the IT GUYS. IT IS AN ISSUE. They were not able to interpret why the average was up! Quite fishy. I have done my calculations... but there is this mysterious prices in my portfolio that is why i posted to the wasuans...



Again how is it an issue if it does not affect the amount of money you actually spent?
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Aguytrying
#18 Posted : Thursday, March 02, 2017 2:23:00 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
sparkly wrote:
ARAP CHARLES wrote:
Thanks people for the ideas... I will revisit my broker today for finer details about this. The information i got from them was.. they will forward this to the IT GUYS. IT IS AN ISSUE. They were not able to interpret why the average was up! Quite fishy. I have done my calculations... but there is this mysterious prices in my portfolio that is why i posted to the wasuans...



Again how is it an issue if it does not affect the amount of money you actually spent?


exactly calculating average buying price is your job. not stock broker. I never used my brokers average prices, they are normally wrong
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