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Treasury Bills and Bonds
Taurrus
#581 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:06:49 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


Wanted 30B
Offered 35B
Took 6B
kwani hii biz huenda aje?d'oh!
Liv
#582 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:04:44 AM
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Tap sale coming soon
AndyC
#583 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:09:20 AM
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Liv wrote:
Tap sale coming soon


Pray it comes in April
maka
#584 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:33:17 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Taurrus wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


Wanted 30B
Offered 35B
Took 6B
kwani hii biz huenda aje?d'oh!


I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...
possunt quia posse videntur
snipermnoma
#585 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:51:08 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 257
maka wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


Wanted 30B
Offered 35B
Took 6B
kwani hii biz huenda aje?d'oh!


I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...


Wow. That is a huge amount that was not accepted. These rejected funds can be chanelled through either a TAP sale or another bond or the bills. If not then borrow externally. We wait and see...
Pesa Nane
#586 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:02:44 AM
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Posts: 4,105
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Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
maka
#587 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:56:33 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...
possunt quia posse videntur
wukan
#588 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:02:24 AM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,590
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Interest rate refers to the rate at which you pull capital. If capital is limited then you pay a higher rate to pull capital. Govt is pulling capital at 13.55%. It's a market based on auction willing buyer willing seller.

So What you talking about brod'oh! d'oh! d'oh! damn economics should be made a compulsory subject in high school.
maka
#589 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:19:53 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...


Pole umehata...iza bro.
possunt quia posse videntur
actuarywahisa
#590 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:39:27 AM
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Joined: 5/21/2014
Posts: 184
wukan wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Interest rate refers to the rate at which you pull capital. If capital is limited then you pay a higher rate to pull capital. Govt is pulling capital at 13.55%. It's a market based on auction willing buyer willing seller.

So What you talking about brod'oh! d'oh! d'oh! damn economics should be made a compulsory subject in high school.


When someone gives you an offer you consider exhorbitant you have the right to reject it and then hopefully they reduce their price.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
actuarywahisa
#591 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:08:29 PM
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Posts: 184
In any case there is always the option of revising the budget down and/or cutting down on excesses.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Pesa Nane
#592 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:19:54 PM
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Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
wukan wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Interest rate refers to the rate at which you pull capital. If capital is limited then you pay a higher rate to pull capital. Govt is pulling capital at 13.55%. It's a market based on auction willing buyer willing seller.

So What you talking about brod'oh! d'oh! d'oh! damn economics should be made a compulsory subject in high school.

Read again, sir
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Taurrus
#593 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:30:46 PM
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Joined: 8/25/2015
Posts: 839
Location: Kite
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...

You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform.
maka
#594 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:48:39 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Taurrus wrote:
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...

You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform.


Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100.
possunt quia posse videntur
snipermnoma
#595 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 7:26:11 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 257
maka wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...

You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform.


Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100.


Wenye walipata kudos to them. @pesanane did you get? Looks like your bid was just within the limit.
maka
#596 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 7:39:02 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Btw on this small lots the difference is negligible....just bid at average to avoid missing.
possunt quia posse videntur
Pesa Nane
#597 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:35:10 PM
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Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
Tap Sale, PAP! Applause Applause

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
KulaRaha
#598 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:32:31 PM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...

You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform.


Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100.


Wenye walipata kudos to them. @pesanane did you get? Looks like your bid was just within the limit.


Cut off was 13.6%, how did you get 14% unless you are a chosen one like Waiguru...smile
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
maka
#599 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:44:28 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
KulaRaha wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...

You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform.


Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100.


Wenye walipata kudos to them. @pesanane did you get? Looks like your bid was just within the limit.


Cut off was 13.6%, how did you get 14% unless you are a chosen one like Waiguru...smile


Check....#589
possunt quia posse videntur
Pesa Nane
#600 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:55:24 PM
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Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
maka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
CBK only accepted sh.6bn out of 30bn
Uhurunomics tactics screwed this country


maka wrote:
I agree @Ericsonn totally effed up market...@Taurus the governor said he is not taking anymore expensive cash from investors...if your bid was way off the yield curve pole kwako it gets rejected...problem is we will have to borrow externally...

Sorry but I see prudence.
On a personal level, would you pick any money thrown at you at exorbitant rates?
Remember only 600 liquid Kenyans want to 'extort' treasury and (over) profit on the backs of 41 million tax payers.

Disclaimer: I quoted 14.000% and anxiously awaiting my fate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


14% umepata hiyo...but look at it this way we borrow externally putting pressure on the shilling...any depreciation on the Kshs vs the dollar piles unnecessary pressure on the treasury guys...

You mean one gets the % you quote? thought final % is uniform.


Go back to the issue prospectus...go to 14% and check how much you will pay per 100.


Wenye walipata kudos to them. @pesanane did you get? Looks like your bid was just within the limit.


Cut off was 13.6%, how did you get 14% unless you are a chosen one like Waiguru...smile


Check....#589

Was hopeful.....but missed.
But here comes second chance. 13.555 is no different from 14% for we small people
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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