Either the competing theists, or the presumptuous atheists and agnostics who

History had documented, huh ? Mind sharing just a few ?

Take time to read the history of the Bible. It's the foundation of your religion right ? You will be shocked.

Mind you am not an atheist. I do believe in God or more precisely, a supreme being. The religions, all of them, are nothing but frauds that have gone on for too long.

But don't bother with me am a lost soul. Get your tithe ready, tomorrow is Sunday.

@Masukuma, I agree with you. But reading Adam Smith's theory of moral sentiments has exposed the weakness of agreeing and disagreeing to the point of what I may call 'algorithmic coincidences'. That is, maybe we should focus on the algorithms that have taken us to certain conclusions and maybe deconstruct them to reveal who we are. And maybe inform our futures.

It's like my 2 cents are worth so little.

I'm saying this because of the word 'spirituality'. I remember a long time ago when I was a church goer we had a big problem defining 'spirit' with the pastor... I doubt if it's easier now.

Initially one starts by contesting religion, then down the road, you realize that one is also contesting language. Maybe 'spirit' is a symbol about to be abandoned.

That's what I thought as I watched a cockroach dying. It seemed like a natural death. I watched it turn upside down by itself and slowly become still and stiff. I wondered if it had a spirit ... and why it's death was not so significant to fellow roaches or humans. Only the ants delighted.

Maybe in the very end, at least of human discourse, nothing remains except the scripts of our algorithms.

we are products of our environment and that implies the times you live in as well. Religion to me is a way of living. mostly a code to follow. that dictates to a large extent what is right and what is wrong and if wrong what the punishment is to be (and sometimes who will do the punishing). that is always fairly easy to master and hack. the concept of an all seeing eye that watches your every move and keeps records of wrong and good deeds is also a common theme. Spirituality to me is OTHERNESS... it's what the first humans who became conscious had... the thought of this "otherness". We feel it and think of it and philosophize about it. Perhaps it's a product of a brain that crosses a certain threshold in development and sometimes it's "detection" is similar to how a radio "understands" radio waves that are invisible to the naked eye and "makes sense" out of it! Perhaps spirituality is a dimension that can only be "realised" or "comprehended" by highly complex brains. perhaps our brains are just cross that threshold and we are able to tell there is something "other" than what we detect with our 5 senses and measure with our instruments. but we cannot quantify it. perhaps the complex brain prerequisite explains why roaches don't give a shit about the passing of their compatriots. I tend to however think that it's more a product of the brain as opposed to it being a realization simply because if it was a realization based on the multiple diverse and conflicting ways we comprehend spirituality! or perhaps it's a case of the blindfolded touching elephant and describing it - we are all describing the same animal but different aspects of it. If you think of it - most people you know who are great adherents of a certain religion - they have hacked the "religion" bit! they don't do A and B and do C as required. Their fixation right now is on the spiritual aspects... "the chills giving" aspect of spirituality! the one that tries to make sense of this life we live and strives to answer the question "why are we here?".