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I have always wanted to build my mum a village home. I am finally ready thanks to bonuses and working hard.I don't have too large of a budget. The land is in a town near Bondo,We have the land,yet to place a gate,we have ready blueprint for the house done by a pro.It will be a 3 bed roomed bungalow. 1.What is the acceptable % to pay a fundi? 2.Do i need a structural engineer?how much to consult? 3.Start time is May-should we start getting the materials on the ground? 4.Who has contacts of a reputable fundi near Bondo. 5.Any one knows of the closest quary near Akala area. Any advise,criticisms is welcomed. “An asset is something that puts money in my pocket. A liability is something that takes money out of my pocket.”
― Robert T. Kiyosaki, Rich Dad, Poor Dad
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Quick advise: build with the materials near home and build with a design of the surrounding houses architecture. If the people use mud bricks, use the same but improve. If roofs are thatched, use the same, there are thatched houses in England still standing and very elegant, do not stress importing stone from far places.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Pat87 wrote:I have always wanted to build my mum a village home.
I am finally ready thanks to bonuses and working hard.I don't have too large of a budget.
The land is in a town near Bondo,We have the land,yet to place a gate,we have ready blueprint for the house done by a pro.It will be a 3 bed roomed bungalow.
1.What is the acceptable % to pay a fundi?
2.Do i need a structural engineer?how much to consult?
3.Start time is May-should we start getting the materials on the ground?
4.Who has contacts of a reputable fundi near Bondo.
5.Any one knows of the closest quary near Akala area.
Any advise,criticisms is welcomed.
Good for you, I am sure your mother will be elated. As advised above, don't look too far for materials, (but I wouldn't go as far as to use thatched roofing  ) Important; 1. Get the right fundi, an idea is to search for one through their Nairobi networks and then you take them to your place to do the work, many are happy to work with modest accomodations as long as the cash is right 2. build in stages, make sure you inspect every stage before starting the other. e,g complete foundation, inspect, then do walls, inspect, then do roof inspect, then interior etc. 3. Ask the fundis for their areas of specialization, example don't accept a fundi claiming he can do both walls and roofing's, you will be in for rude shock. work out labour costs based on stages of work. Avoid fundis of shags if you have high expectations on quality, other than watu wa mkono. If quality is not important then go for them. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/2/2016 Posts: 23
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Pat87 wrote:I have always wanted to build my mum a village home.
I am finally ready thanks to bonuses and working hard.I don't have too large of a budget.
The land is in a town near Bondo,We have the land,yet to place a gate,we have ready blueprint for the house done by a pro.It will be a 3 bed roomed bungalow.
1.What is the acceptable % to pay a fundi?
2.Do i need a structural engineer?how much to consult?
3.Start time is May-should we start getting the materials on the ground?
4.Who has contacts of a reputable fundi near Bondo.
5.Any one knows of the closest quary near Akala area.
Any advise,criticisms is welcomed.
Good for you, I am sure your mother will be elated. As advised above, don't look too far for materials, (but I wouldn't go as far as to use thatched roofing ) Important; 1. Get the right fundi, an idea is to search for one through their Nairobi networks and then you take them to your place to do the work, many are happy to work with modest accomodations as long as the cash is right 2. build in stages, make sure you inspect every stage before starting the other. e,g complete foundation, inspect, then do walls, inspect, then do roof inspect, then interior etc. 3. Ask the fundis for their areas of specialization, example don't accept a fundi claiming he can do both walls and roofing's, you will be in for rude shock. work out labour costs based on stages of work. Avoid fundis of shags if you have high expectations on quality, other than watu wa mkono. If quality is not important then go for them. Oh i didn't know that the fundi for the stages are different,wow,Will definately look into their specialties,that means i will have 4 fundis by the time i finish? “An asset is something that puts money in my pocket. A liability is something that takes money out of my pocket.”
― Robert T. Kiyosaki, Rich Dad, Poor Dad
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Pat87 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Pat87 wrote:I have always wanted to build my mum a village home.
I am finally ready thanks to bonuses and working hard.I don't have too large of a budget.
The land is in a town near Bondo,We have the land,yet to place a gate,we have ready blueprint for the house done by a pro.It will be a 3 bed roomed bungalow.
1.What is the acceptable % to pay a fundi?
2.Do i need a structural engineer?how much to consult?
3.Start time is May-should we start getting the materials on the ground?
4.Who has contacts of a reputable fundi near Bondo.
5.Any one knows of the closest quary near Akala area.
Any advise,criticisms is welcomed.
Good for you, I am sure your mother will be elated. As advised above, don't look too far for materials, (but I wouldn't go as far as to use thatched roofing ) Important; 1. Get the right fundi, an idea is to search for one through their Nairobi networks and then you take them to your place to do the work, many are happy to work with modest accomodations as long as the cash is right 2. build in stages, make sure you inspect every stage before starting the other. e,g complete foundation, inspect, then do walls, inspect, then do roof inspect, then interior etc. 3. Ask the fundis for their areas of specialization, example don't accept a fundi claiming he can do both walls and roofing's, you will be in for rude shock. work out labour costs based on stages of work. Avoid fundis of shags if you have high expectations on quality, other than watu wa mkono. If quality is not important then go for them. Oh i didn't know that the fundi for the stages are different,wow,Will definately look into their specialties,that means i will have 4 fundis by the time i finish? Lastly be careful when you are far from home. Trust is an issue that engulfs people in diaspora. Be very very careful
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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enyands wrote:Pat87 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Pat87 wrote:I have always wanted to build my mum a village home.
I am finally ready thanks to bonuses and working hard.I don't have too large of a budget.
The land is in a town near Bondo,We have the land,yet to place a gate,we have ready blueprint for the house done by a pro.It will be a 3 bed roomed bungalow.
1.What is the acceptable % to pay a fundi?
2.Do i need a structural engineer?how much to consult?
3.Start time is May-should we start getting the materials on the ground?
4.Who has contacts of a reputable fundi near Bondo.
5.Any one knows of the closest quary near Akala area.
Any advise,criticisms is welcomed.
Good for you, I am sure your mother will be elated. As advised above, don't look too far for materials, (but I wouldn't go as far as to use thatched roofing ) Important; 1. Get the right fundi, an idea is to search for one through their Nairobi networks and then you take them to your place to do the work, many are happy to work with modest accomodations as long as the cash is right 2. build in stages, make sure you inspect every stage before starting the other. e,g complete foundation, inspect, then do walls, inspect, then do roof inspect, then interior etc. 3. Ask the fundis for their areas of specialization, example don't accept a fundi claiming he can do both walls and roofing's, you will be in for rude shock. work out labour costs based on stages of work. Avoid fundis of shags if you have high expectations on quality, other than watu wa mkono. If quality is not important then go for them. Oh i didn't know that the fundi for the stages are different,wow,Will definately look into their specialties,that means i will have 4 fundis by the time i finish? Lastly be careful when you are far from home. Trust is an issue that engulfs people in diaspora. Be very very careful As long as you are doing any project remotely, you should always factor in 10% nyama for the person you've trusted to oversee the project If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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very good thing, you have decided to do, we should always look after our parents.
To be honest mimi sijui Bondo, but I think it should not be that different from other areas,
1. Fundi is more of a willing taker negotiation thing, pay the fundi per day or work based on the local rates
2. in my opinion for a bungalow, an engineer is an overkill.
3. get the materials once you get the main fundi, what I have found better is to accumulate cash and push the project as far as possible in one go.
My advice, get the main fundi first, let him take care of the rest, like sourcing material, getting watu wa mkono, any decent fundi should take care of all stages in a bungalow including roofing and basic finishes, don't stress with experts at each level.
there are other threads on building houses, lakini they are from some years back, weka updates once the project starts, someone else might benefit from that info.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:very good thing, you have decided to do, we should always look after our parents.
To be honest mimi sijui Bondo, but I think it should not be that different from other areas,
1. Fundi is more of a willing taker negotiation thing, pay the fundi per day or work based on the local rates
2. in my opinion for a bungalow, an engineer is an overkill.
3. get the materials once you get the main fundi, what I have found better is to accumulate cash and push the project as far as possible in one go.
My advice, get the main fundi first, let him take care of the rest, like sourcing material, getting watu wa mkono, any decent fundi should take care of all stages in a bungalow including roofing and basic finishes, don't stress with experts at each level.
there are other threads on building houses, lakini they are from some years back, weka updates once the project starts, someone else might benefit from that info. Fundi should not source for materials
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,226 Location: nairobi
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mawinder wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:very good thing, you have decided to do, we should always look after our parents.
To be honest mimi sijui Bondo, but I think it should not be that different from other areas,
1. Fundi is more of a willing taker negotiation thing, pay the fundi per day or work based on the local rates
2. in my opinion for a bungalow, an engineer is an overkill.
3. get the materials once you get the main fundi, what I have found better is to accumulate cash and push the project as far as possible in one go.
My advice, get the main fundi first, let him take care of the rest, like sourcing material, getting watu wa mkono, any decent fundi should take care of all stages in a bungalow including roofing and basic finishes, don't stress with experts at each level.
there are other threads on building houses, lakini they are from some years back, weka updates once the project starts, someone else might benefit from that info. Fundi should not source for materials Fundi must never source for material
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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1. Don't pay per day rates, they will take forever to finish thathouse. Let the main fundi act as a contractor. Charge you for labor/expertise in stages. Foundation>Walling>Roofing>Finishing. Watu wa mtoto and the like ni wake. Where you have your own expert(s),bring them on board.
2. Materials needed in bulk or costing good money, source yourself. The rest, support local economy.
3. You don't need engineers. Ensure the right mix of materials as recommended.
4. A fundi can be good at walling as well as roofing. It's not like the two are mutually exclusive. Find one who is, he will factor how the roof will look like, by his way of walling.
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