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Doctors no longer out patients
twesha13
#1 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 11:49:47 AM
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so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.
where a woman rules, rivers run uphill!
alma1
#2 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 11:55:36 AM
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At exactly 2pm your doctor at Kiambu hospital will be at work...They will have found out that they were corrupted by the jaruo doctor union officials.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

ZZE123
#3 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 12:04:58 PM
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alma1 wrote:
At exactly 2pm your doctor at Kiambu hospital will be at work...They will have found out that they were corrupted by the jaruo doctor union officials.

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#4 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 12:25:35 PM
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Wakanyugi
#5 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 12:54:12 PM
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twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.
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twesha13
#6 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:47:22 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill
where a woman rules, rivers run uphill!
Liv
#7 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:21:50 PM
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twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.
thuks
#8 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 7:59:45 PM
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Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?
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murchr
#9 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 8:01:16 PM
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thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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quicksand
#10 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 8:15:45 PM
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Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


This is a judge bereft of common sense...if courts are our trusted arbiters, she has fallen flat on her face. She has put everyone on the untenable position of waiting for a month, twiddling their thumbs as they wait for the reps to serve out their sentence.
Unless the government is hoping to conduct negotiations through cell bars?
Can the govt afford to be seen to be idling for 30 whole days while the misery piles out there?
Will the judiciary reverse itself? A dog's breakfast this is.
A brilliant outcome indeed.
thuks
#11 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 8:23:06 PM
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murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.

Good!I I love the ring of finality in the last post. If only life were like that
I care!
alma1
#12 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 8:44:17 PM
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thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.

Good!I I love the ring of finality in the last post. If only life were like that


We shall jail them!

Now they are in jail...now what?
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#13 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 8:49:24 PM
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thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.

Good!I I love the ring of finality in the last post. If only life were like that


Watch Kabufallo
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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maka
#14 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 9:13:31 PM
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This is just nonesense to be honest...
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its2013
#15 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 9:45:27 PM
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Why not just implement the CBA which is cheaper than the offer given to UASU?
Pretty hurts
thuks
#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:09:54 AM
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murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.

Good!I I love the ring of finality in the last post. If only life were like that


Watch Kabufallo

Watching, they say the court has added 30 days to the strike, illegal or not. Meanwhile, the common mwananchi will queue
I care!
masukuma
#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:12:50 AM
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you cannot force people to work - what is wrong with these people?
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murchr
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:16:02 AM
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thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.

Good!I I love the ring of finality in the last post. If only life were like that


Watch Kabufallo

Watching, they say the court has added 30 days to the strike, illegal or not. Meanwhile, the common mwananchi will queue



The courts added 30 days of what? Where?

masukuma wrote:
you cannot force people to work - what is wrong with these people?


Yes, Why not just part ways. Employee and employer could not agree with the terms
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Tokyo
#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 9:10:37 AM
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300% salary increase.. ngai!!
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masukuma
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 9:29:05 AM
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murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
murchr wrote:
thuks wrote:
Liv wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
twesha13 wrote:
so doctor's union officials have been locked up for a month. So how will this help in solving the problem.


I know the law is an ass but surely the lawgivers are not supposed to be asses too, or are they?

This decision will likely only harden positions. Plus, by buying into the victim/under-dog complex, the Magistrate has handed someone a lease on a future career in politics.

If they want Unions to behave the courts should do what the Canadians and Americans do. Fine the entire enterprise a crazy sum, like a 100K for every day in default, as a first option, amount to be paid even if the leaders end up in jail.


very true @wakanyugi. political careers launched while our relatives upcountry suffer for lack of medication while quack doctors make a kill


I think the magistrate argued that the problem could not be solved whether they were in or out of jail. Having them out was also making them harden their position and getting a solution was not assured. They could not even listen to an experienced trade unionist like Atwoli.


They won't call off the strike and they can't be jailed twice for the same offence. How's that a solution?


The strike is illegal, the docs can now be fired.

Good!I I love the ring of finality in the last post. If only life were like that


Watch Kabufallo

Watching, they say the court has added 30 days to the strike, illegal or not. Meanwhile, the common mwananchi will queue



The courts added 30 days of what? Where?

masukuma wrote:
you cannot force people to work - what is wrong with these people?


Yes, Why not just part ways. Employee and employer could not agree with the terms

the employee has made his/her move - next move employer!
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