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hamburglar		#51 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 3:58:14 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887		AlphDoti wrote: Liv wrote: hamburglar wrote: " What are they for? What value do they add in someone's life? They are expensive, messy, loud, big responsibilities and really don't make anything better in someone's life in my opinion. And did I mention that they are really expensive?" @Ham, this is how you started a topic on children..... your values as an atheists can show clearly in that paragraph Everyone here can see who is a fool here...lol So our parents were kind of dumb to give birth to us ? Wewe AlphDoti. Nobody called anybody dumb. Evolution might be able to explain this to you better.
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AlphDoti		#52 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:00:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		hamburglar wrote: aemathenge wrote: hamburglar wrote: I never said I can't raise kids, I know I have the capability of raising a few kids comfortably if I ever chose to go down that path. But I DONT want any kids. By choice and not because of financial circumstances or any other reason that some people are trying to pass. Very well. A kid is me. It is my flesh, my blood, and ultimately, the heir to my wealth. In that regard, if you do not want a kid, this is because you do not want your flesh, your blood, and you wish to be buried with your wealth. So what is it that you do not like about your flesh? Secondly. I love myself but that has nothing to do with having kids. Ate you trying to imply that people who don't have kids don't love themselves? I honestly don't understand you. Quote: This photo won the award for best photo and led the photographer into depression. The Cheetahs chased a mother deer and her 2 fawns (baby deers), the mother could've easily outrun Cheetahs but instead she offered herself to Cheetahs so that her kids can manage to run to safety. In the picture she is seen looking at her babies running safely as she is about to get torn into pieces. She is about to be torn to pieces and she doesn't look a bit hesitated, that's mother for you!
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Liv		#53 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:16:27 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311		hamburglar wrote: AlphDoti wrote: Liv wrote: hamburglar wrote: " What are they for? What value do they add in someone's life? They are expensive, messy, loud, big responsibilities and really don't make anything better in someone's life in my opinion. And did I mention that they are really expensive?" @Ham, this is how you started a topic on children..... your values as an atheists can show clearly in that paragraph Everyone here can see who is a fool here...lol So our parents were kind of dumb to give birth to us ? Wewe AlphDoti. Nobody called anybody dumb. Evolution might be able to explain this to you better. Evolution can explain this? How??
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AlphDoti		#54 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:31:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		hamburglar wrote: AlphDoti wrote: Liv wrote: hamburglar wrote: " What are they for? What value do they add in someone's life? They are expensive, messy, loud, big responsibilities and really don't make anything better in someone's life in my opinion. And did I mention that they are really expensive?" @Ham, this is how you started a topic on children..... your values as an atheists can show clearly in that paragraph Everyone here can see who is a fool here...lol So our parents were kind of dumb to give birth to us ? Wewe AlphDoti. Nobody called anybody dumb. Evolution might be able to explain this to you better. @ham, I was avoiding you taking this as personal attack. But let me rephrase: do you think you added any value in your parents' lives? hamburglar wrote: What's with these personal attacks anyway? Lol
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hamburglar		#55 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:33:48 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887		AlphDoti wrote: hamburglar wrote: aemathenge wrote: hamburglar wrote: I never said I can't raise kids, I know I have the capability of raising a few kids comfortably if I ever chose to go down that path. But I DONT want any kids. By choice and not because of financial circumstances or any other reason that some people are trying to pass. Very well. A kid is me. It is my flesh, my blood, and ultimately, the heir to my wealth. In that regard, if you do not want a kid, this is because you do not want your flesh, your blood, and you wish to be buried with your wealth. So what is it that you do not like about your flesh? Secondly. I love myself but that has nothing to do with having kids. Ate you trying to imply that people who don't have kids don't love themselves? I honestly don't understand you. Quote: This photo won the award for best photo and led the photographer into depression. The Cheetahs chased a mother deer and her 2 fawns (baby deers), the mother could've easily outrun Cheetahs but instead she offered herself to Cheetahs so that her kids can manage to run to safety. In the picture she is seen looking at her babies running safely as she is about to get torn into pieces. She is about to be torn to pieces and she doesn't look a bit hesitated, that's mother for you! AlphDoti. You are missing the point. It's not if we love our kids or not. Am sure if I had kids I would love them unconditionally and protect them with my life. Nobody is disputing the love a parent has for his/her kids. The question here is, are kids really necessary especially if you can't afford to raise them?
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AlphDoti		#56 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:45:05 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		hamburglar wrote: AlphDoti wrote: hamburglar wrote: aemathenge wrote: hamburglar wrote: I never said I can't raise kids, I know I have the capability of raising a few kids comfortably if I ever chose to go down that path. But I DONT want any kids. By choice and not because of financial circumstances or any other reason that some people are trying to pass. Very well. A kid is me. It is my flesh, my blood, and ultimately, the heir to my wealth. In that regard, if you do not want a kid, this is because you do not want your flesh, your blood, and you wish to be buried with your wealth. So what is it that you do not like about your flesh? Secondly. I love myself but that has nothing to do with having kids. Ate you trying to imply that people who don't have kids don't love themselves? I honestly don't understand you. Quote: This photo won the award for best photo and led the photographer into depression. The Cheetahs chased a mother deer and her 2 fawns (baby deers), the mother could've easily outrun Cheetahs but instead she offered herself to Cheetahs so that her kids can manage to run to safety. In the picture she is seen looking at her babies running safely as she is about to get torn into pieces. She is about to be torn to pieces and she doesn't look a bit hesitated, that's mother for you! AlphDoti. You are missing the point. It's not if we love our kids or not. Am sure if I had kids I would love them unconditionally and protect them with my life. Nobody is disputing the love a parent has for his/her kids. The question here is, are kids really necessary especially if you can't afford to raise them? So in short you would love them kids, but the problem is that you can't afford to raise them?
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masukuma		#57 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:01:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		hamburglar wrote: The question here is, are kids really necessary especially if you can't afford to raise them? YES kids are necessary - why? they will run this place when you are older! kids are like weeds! they all have a great childhood!! even the ones in Kibich!! each person always says he/she had a great childhood - except if they were abused! but poverty makes for a good story line. it's grown ups who over think this thing and intelligent middle class ones especially! oh... I cannot afford them... sure you can! they are having kids in Afghanistan! a woman gets pregnant 8 times in that death hole and you think your life is hard? please... do us a favour put your money were your mouth is and prove that you are indeed intelligent (i was going to say something nastier but mouth and money will do). play a role in the future of the human race - if you think you are smart - pass on that smartness, that is how culture is changed! dumbasses will still breed and their kids not yours will run this place when you are older and you will regret it... if you think it's intelligent to write memoirs of your past in order to help others or even write books to inspire others - why not contribute to the gene pool? why allow intelligence to fall into the hands of natural selection? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma		#58 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:10:07 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		personally I think that the smartest of our race should stop being so self absorbed! go out breed! even if they are illegitimate kids... don't be a wuss! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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AlphDoti		#59 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:19:40 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		a better place for who, dumbasses kids???
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Ryko		#60 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:28:23 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/27/2016 Posts: 274 Location: Pub		And this are some of the reasons why people are having kids..... Some of them are funny, some are doing it coz others did it, some are following "unknown rules" 1. if you do not want a kid, this is because... you wish to be buried with your wealth. @aemathenge So you have kids so that they can inherit your wealth, when you dead you dead!! Meaning if you dont have wealth you dont need kids is that what your implying? 2 The only reason we are alive is to procreate @gk really? where do you get this rules .. there is more to life than just procreation. Its not a MUST 3. Everyone here can see who is a fool here...lol @Liv Everyone who doe not have kids is a fool (Definition of a fool: "a person who acts unwisely") Just because someone is cut from a different cloth or see's this in a different view he is not a fool "unwise" 4. Everything else is a zero sum game.@gk 5. our parents were kind of dumb to give birth to u @AlphDoti You are just having kids because they had kids. Does it mean you are just following what others did blindly?, may be they had other reasons. 6. Play a role in the future of the human race - if you think you are smart - pass on that smartness @Masukuma This is acceptable & makes sense. But then again you dont need to if you dont want to play a role, its an option. i.e its like saying give a kidney to help some dying. Some donate some dont. I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
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