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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I pity you guys. Complaining about Trump 24/7. You can throw tantrums for next 8yrs while Trump doesnt give a damn as yeye anakula nyama while Making America Great Again. Makelele ya chura (vyura?) from some 3rd world little known back water and insignificant country called Kenya wont stop Trump from kukunywa maji. #MAGA.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Ngalaka wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Putin does not give a hoot. Rüssïä is not bending their knees to Ù.Š... Chïnä is not bending their knees to Ù.Š... If anyone insists, then the world will head into WWÌÌÌ... Methinks Putin reaaaally needed to get Trump to ease on the debilitating sanctions. If things went as above, that's a bitter one for Putin to swallow. In that context, has Putin being played! Everybody needed the break... The temporary stand-off will at least postpone the imminent WWÌÌÌ. But do not think Pütin is fooled. Both the Chinese and Rüssïä are aware of Uncle Sam character, such a deceiver!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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ENTRY DENIED!i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The courts might say otherwise but Trump has already instructed the target foreign embassies not to issue any visas. The embassies fall under (and report to) Trump and not the courts. So for any judge to go against Trump (ie the executive) is absolute nonsense.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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#GrabYourWallet  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry work to prosper
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2016 Posts: 225
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Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry @Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do. Reflection Eternal
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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AlphDoti wrote:Ngalaka wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Putin does not give a hoot. Rüssïä is not bending their knees to Ù.Š... Chïnä is not bending their knees to Ù.Š... If anyone insists, then the world will head into WWÌÌÌ... Methinks Putin reaaaally needed to get Trump to ease on the debilitating sanctions. If things went as above, that's a bitter one for Putin to swallow. In that context, has Putin being played! Everybody needed the break... The temporary stand-off will at least postpone the imminent WWÌÌÌ. But do not think Pütin is fooled. Both the Chinese and Rüssïä are aware of Uncle Sam character, such a deceiver! Please substantiate. And dont let chuki cloud your view. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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The very gist of this thread is that GENERALLY, America is a force for good, but with Trump, people are worried - if that virtuous element will be compromised. That is not to say that they do not have their dark side, - no, its about looking at the whole balance sheet in an objective way. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Paper Accidentally Runs Photo of Alec Baldwin Instead of Donald Trump
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry Exactly. This was not because of Trump's immigration policy, this girl was caught with academic papers in her luggage and yet she was going to Chicago for a visit. Shows that she was coming to America to seek employment. That was her undoing, it was a routine check and she was caught lying. Not being honest at the POE will usually get you a one way ticket back home.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Flo-ology wrote:Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry @Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do. If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry. The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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at least he has been consistent on some things over and over All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Flo-ology wrote:Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry @Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do. If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry. The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified. Obi. Actually it's not unfair. The immigration officers have a right to conduct a random check and in the event that they find you with any suspicious material, it's up to their discretion to either let you in or turn you back. The officers at the POE are the last line of defense and it's well within their duty to vet would be travellers a second time despite them having a valid Visa. You can get a visa in your home country but if you decide to take anything that might expose your intentions as dishonest, I also personally think you should not be allowed in. Sometimes it's better to be honest. Kenyans have a tendency of lying their way into everything g something that is frowned upon in the West. Why was this girl carrying academic papers in her luggage and she was only going for a "visit"? That raises red flags and I think the officers were just doing their job when they sent her back. Kenyans need to start being truthful. If this girl wanted to go to school she should have just applied for an F1 student visa and played by the rules. Shortcuts are costly in the long run.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Flo-ology wrote:Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry @Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do. If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry. The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified. Obi. Actually it's no unfair. The immigration officers have a right to conduct a random check and in the event that they find you with any suspicious material, it's up to their discretion to either let you in or turn you back. The officers at the POE are the last line of defense and it's well within their duty to vet would be travellers a second time despite them having a valid Visa. You can get a visa in your home country but if you decide to take anything that might expose your intentions as dishonest, I also personally think you should not be allowed in. Sometimes it's better to be honest. Kenyans have a tendency of lying their way into everything g something that is frowned upon in the West. Why was this girl carrying academic papers in her luggage and she was only going for a "visit"? That raises red flags and I think the officers were just doing their job when they sent her back. Kenyans need to start being truthful. If this girl wanted to go to school she should have just applied for an F1 student visa and played by the rules. Shortcuts are costly in the long run. the thing i don't get is Why TF would they ask for your phone and an even bigger question... Why would you give it to them plus the password? like really? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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True. But the reality on the ground says the opposite... Unless he is not in touch 
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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masukuma wrote:hamburglar wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Flo-ology wrote:Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry @Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do. If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry. The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified. Obi. Actually it's no unfair. The immigration officers have a right to conduct a random check and in the event that they find you with any suspicious material, it's up to their discretion to either let you in or turn you back. The officers at the POE are the last line of defense and it's well within their duty to vet would be travellers a second time despite them having a valid Visa. You can get a visa in your home country but if you decide to take anything that might expose your intentions as dishonest, I also personally think you should not be allowed in. Sometimes it's better to be honest. Kenyans have a tendency of lying their way into everything g something that is frowned upon in the West. Why was this girl carrying academic papers in her luggage and she was only going for a "visit"? That raises red flags and I think the officers were just doing their job when they sent her back. Kenyans need to start being truthful. If this girl wanted to go to school she should have just applied for an F1 student visa and played by the rules. Shortcuts are costly in the long run. the thing i don't get is Why TF would they ask for your phone and an even bigger question... Why would you give it to them plus the password? like really? I think that was after they had found the academic papers in her luggage and were trying to dig deeper and find out what else they could use to ascertain her intentions. They wanted to see if maybe there were conversations with somebody that would implicate her. Once they suspect someone they have every right to investigate further and if you don't have anything to hide, why wouldn't you give them your phone? I think if someone is being truthful they would not have a problem with the immigration officers vetting or even handing over their phone for them to peruse. She had to give out the phone because by refusing to hand it over it would have meant immediate deportation. Handing it over shows that at least she was cooperating and that will sometimes help your cause if the case is 50/50.
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