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Enuma Elish
#31 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 9:15:40 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@hamburglar, God murdered 50,070 for looking into a box d'oh! d'oh!

1 Samuel 6:19 (KJV)

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.


Now you see Allah is the most disgusting god ever to be imagined.


Silly me. Up till now, I always thought that Allah=Eloha=Jehova 🙄
Anti_Burglar
#32 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 9:18:39 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
Enuma Elish wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@hamburglar, God murdered 50,070 for looking into a box d'oh! d'oh!

1 Samuel 6:19 (KJV)

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.


Now you see Allah is the most disgusting god ever to be imagined.


Silly me. Up till now, I always thought that Allah=Eloha=Jehova 🙄



Hello there, Enuma Elish, how do you mean?
AlphDoti
#33 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 3:41:21 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
2012 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
For our first Sunday, we look at the book of Genesis. Enjoy the teachings.

GENESIS 34:13 Shechem had premarital sex with Jacob’s daughter Dinah, which angered Jacob’s sons. Shechem and his father, Hamor, agreed to circumcision for the men in the city in order for Shechem to marry Dinah and make Jacob’s other daughters eligible for the men of the city. Three days later, while the men were still enduring the pain of circumcision, Jacob’s sons attacked the unsuspecting city, killing Shechem and Hamor with swords, looting the city, seizing the flocks, herds, possessions and wealth, plundering the houses and carrying off their women and children.

GENESIS 6 & 7 Unhappy with the wickedness of man, God killed every living thing on the planet except Noah’s family. Men, women, infants and animals drowned in unimaginable terror and agony.

GENESIS 19:6- In Sodom, Lot’s home was assaulted by a homosexual mob seeking to have relations with two angels. Lot volunteered his virgin daughters to the crowd, saying "you can do what you like with them" as long as the guests are left alone. After offering his children to be raped, Lot was then appointed by God as worthy of rescue from Sodom’s destruction.

GENESIS 19:26: God, still unfazed by the proposed rape of Lot’s virgin daughters, turned Lot’s wife into a pillar of salt for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder.

GENESIS 38: 8-10 – Onan was instructed by Judah to lay with his brother’s wife to produce offspring for his brother (who was put to death by God for wickedness). Onan slept with his brother’s wife but "spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother" (NIV). God found this wicked, so God killed him.

So? What's your point? Are you finally actually admitting that God exists but He's not compassionate?

Now, you need to understand that the Bible is not a bedtime storybook for kids, it's a true account of real events - good and bad.

So, let me shock you further, the woman (Tamar) in the last passage you have quoted (Gen 38) goes on to dress as a prostitute and confused her late husband's father to lay with her and she becomes pregnant. And here comes the shocker, through her and this 'illegitimate' child, she continued the lineage through which Jesus was born. So, Tamar went on to become Jesus's great, great, great grandma.

The book of God, the Bible telling us a story of Juda negotiating with a 'prostitute' on the road side, what he will pay and how he will pay and landing on her...

Out of this incest, and prostitution between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ ("And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar...")
Mike Ock
#34 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 5:19:23 PM
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I regret clicking here. Bye.
Enuma Elish
#35 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 5:36:26 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 6/5/2014
Posts: 47
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Enuma Elish wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@hamburglar, God murdered 50,070 for looking into a box d'oh! d'oh!

1 Samuel 6:19 (KJV)

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.


Now you see Allah is the most disgusting god ever to be imagined.


Silly me. Up till now, I always thought that Allah=Eloha=Jehova 🙄



Hello there, Enuma Elish, how do you mean?


Always thought that Allah, Eloha & Jehova are the same person/god. Aren't they?
AlphDoti
#36 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 5:53:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Enuma Elish wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Enuma Elish wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@hamburglar, God murdered 50,070 for looking into a box d'oh! d'oh!

1 Samuel 6:19 (KJV)

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

Now you see Allah is the most disgusting god ever to be imagined.

Silly me. Up till now, I always thought that Allah=Eloha=Jehova 🙄

Hello there, Enuma Elish, how do you mean?

Always thought that Allah, Eloha & Jehova are the same person/god. Aren't they?

@enum, maybe the "prophet" spoke presumptuously? Or maybe it's the lying pen which made it into a lie?

Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Jeremiah 8:8 “How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie."
2012
#37 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 7:23:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
For our first Sunday, we look at the book of Genesis. Enjoy the teachings.

GENESIS 34:13 Shechem had premarital sex with Jacob’s daughter Dinah, which angered Jacob’s sons. Shechem and his father, Hamor, agreed to circumcision for the men in the city in order for Shechem to marry Dinah and make Jacob’s other daughters eligible for the men of the city. Three days later, while the men were still enduring the pain of circumcision, Jacob’s sons attacked the unsuspecting city, killing Shechem and Hamor with swords, looting the city, seizing the flocks, herds, possessions and wealth, plundering the houses and carrying off their women and children.

GENESIS 6 & 7 Unhappy with the wickedness of man, God killed every living thing on the planet except Noah’s family. Men, women, infants and animals drowned in unimaginable terror and agony.

GENESIS 19:6- In Sodom, Lot’s home was assaulted by a homosexual mob seeking to have relations with two angels. Lot volunteered his virgin daughters to the crowd, saying "you can do what you like with them" as long as the guests are left alone. After offering his children to be raped, Lot was then appointed by God as worthy of rescue from Sodom’s destruction.

GENESIS 19:26: God, still unfazed by the proposed rape of Lot’s virgin daughters, turned Lot’s wife into a pillar of salt for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder.

GENESIS 38: 8-10 – Onan was instructed by Judah to lay with his brother’s wife to produce offspring for his brother (who was put to death by God for wickedness). Onan slept with his brother’s wife but "spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother" (NIV). God found this wicked, so God killed him.

So? What's your point? Are you finally actually admitting that God exists but He's not compassionate?

Now, you need to understand that the Bible is not a bedtime storybook for kids, it's a true account of real events - good and bad.

So, let me shock you further, the woman (Tamar) in the last passage you have quoted (Gen 38) goes on to dress as a prostitute and confused her late husband's father to lay with her and she becomes pregnant. And here comes the shocker, through her and this 'illegitimate' child, she continued the lineage through which Jesus was born. So, Tamar went on to become Jesus's great, great, great grandma.

The book of God, the Bible telling us a story of Juda negotiating with a 'prostitute' on the road side, what he will pay and how he will pay and landing on her...

Out of this incest, and prostitution between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ ("And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar...")


What an amazing book the Bible is! You can't make up these stuff up even in your wildest dreams. Hata Stephen King doesn't come close.

BBI will solve it
:)
Lolest!
#38 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 8:35:10 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
2012 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
For our first Sunday, we look at the book of Genesis. Enjoy the teachings.

GENESIS 34:13 Shechem had premarital sex with Jacob’s daughter Dinah, which angered Jacob’s sons. Shechem and his father, Hamor, agreed to circumcision for the men in the city in order for Shechem to marry Dinah and make Jacob’s other daughters eligible for the men of the city. Three days later, while the men were still enduring the pain of circumcision, Jacob’s sons attacked the unsuspecting city, killing Shechem and Hamor with swords, looting the city, seizing the flocks, herds, possessions and wealth, plundering the houses and carrying off their women and children.

GENESIS 6 & 7 Unhappy with the wickedness of man, God killed every living thing on the planet except Noah’s family. Men, women, infants and animals drowned in unimaginable terror and agony.

GENESIS 19:6- In Sodom, Lot’s home was assaulted by a homosexual mob seeking to have relations with two angels. Lot volunteered his virgin daughters to the crowd, saying "you can do what you like with them" as long as the guests are left alone. After offering his children to be raped, Lot was then appointed by God as worthy of rescue from Sodom’s destruction.

GENESIS 19:26: God, still unfazed by the proposed rape of Lot’s virgin daughters, turned Lot’s wife into a pillar of salt for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder.

GENESIS 38: 8-10 – Onan was instructed by Judah to lay with his brother’s wife to produce offspring for his brother (who was put to death by God for wickedness). Onan slept with his brother’s wife but "spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother" (NIV). God found this wicked, so God killed him.

So? What's your point? Are you finally actually admitting that God exists but He's not compassionate?

Now, you need to understand that the Bible is not a bedtime storybook for kids, it's a true account of real events - good and bad.

So, let me shock you further, the woman (Tamar) in the last passage you have quoted (Gen 38) goes on to dress as a prostitute and confused her late husband's father to lay with her and she becomes pregnant. And here comes the shocker, through her and this 'illegitimate' child, she continued the lineage through which Jesus was born. So, Tamar went on to become Jesus's great, great, great grandma.

The book of God, the Bible telling us a story of Juda negotiating with a 'prostitute' on the road side, what he will pay and how he will pay and landing on her...

Out of this incest, and prostitution between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ ("And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar...")


What an amazing book the Bible is! You can't make up these stuff up even in your wildest dreams. Hata Stephen King doesn't come close.

If it was a book by man like that one done by Muhammad and Satan, they'd have made it look perfect

But through the lineage of Christ, we learn about God's grace. Not just Tamar but Ruth the Moabitess, the adulterers David and Bathsheba, conniving Jacob etc

Our God is so high that in Matthew 5 He demands much more than outward obedience but a cleansing from within. So while we point at David for his adultery, God reminds us that we, in our thoughts could be worse!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#39 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2017 8:40:00 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Enuma Elish wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@hamburglar, God murdered 50,070 for looking into a box d'oh! d'oh!

1 Samuel 6:19 (KJV)

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.


Now you see Allah is the most disgusting god ever to be imagined.


Silly me. Up till now, I always thought that Allah=Eloha=Jehova 🙄

Allah is an idol god worshipped long before Islam at his altar called kaaba
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
AlphDoti
#40 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:30:18 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
2012 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
2012 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
For our first Sunday, we look at the book of Genesis. Enjoy the teachings.

GENESIS 34:13 Shechem had premarital sex with Jacob’s daughter Dinah, which angered Jacob’s sons. Shechem and his father, Hamor, agreed to circumcision for the men in the city in order for Shechem to marry Dinah and make Jacob’s other daughters eligible for the men of the city. Three days later, while the men were still enduring the pain of circumcision, Jacob’s sons attacked the unsuspecting city, killing Shechem and Hamor with swords, looting the city, seizing the flocks, herds, possessions and wealth, plundering the houses and carrying off their women and children.

GENESIS 6 & 7 Unhappy with the wickedness of man, God killed every living thing on the planet except Noah’s family. Men, women, infants and animals drowned in unimaginable terror and agony.

GENESIS 19:6- In Sodom, Lot’s home was assaulted by a homosexual mob seeking to have relations with two angels. Lot volunteered his virgin daughters to the crowd, saying "you can do what you like with them" as long as the guests are left alone. After offering his children to be raped, Lot was then appointed by God as worthy of rescue from Sodom’s destruction.

GENESIS 19:26: God, still unfazed by the proposed rape of Lot’s virgin daughters, turned Lot’s wife into a pillar of salt for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder.

GENESIS 38: 8-10 – Onan was instructed by Judah to lay with his brother’s wife to produce offspring for his brother (who was put to death by God for wickedness). Onan slept with his brother’s wife but "spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother" (NIV). God found this wicked, so God killed him.

So? What's your point? Are you finally actually admitting that God exists but He's not compassionate?

Now, you need to understand that the Bible is not a bedtime storybook for kids, it's a true account of real events - good and bad.

So, let me shock you further, the woman (Tamar) in the last passage you have quoted (Gen 38) goes on to dress as a prostitute and confused her late husband's father to lay with her and she becomes pregnant. And here comes the shocker, through her and this 'illegitimate' child, she continued the lineage through which Jesus was born. So, Tamar went on to become Jesus's great, great, great grandma.

The book of God, the Bible telling us a story of Juda negotiating with a 'prostitute' on the road side, what he will pay and how he will pay and landing on her...

Out of this incest, and prostitution between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ ("And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar...")


What an amazing book the Bible is! You can't make up these stuff up even in your wildest dreams. Hata Stephen King doesn't come close.

@2012, surely it is amazing!

LOOK AT KOINANGE STREET NEGOTIATION

"When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. "He went over to her at the side of the road and said, "ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?"
"She said, what will you give me?"
'He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK"
She said, "All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat.'..
He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant GENESIS 38:15-18

Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who became the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ!

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