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Treasury Bills and Bonds
Ericsson
#461 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 10:57:52 AM
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Wukan the issue is the agreement Uhuruto signed with IMF President Christian Lagarde when she came to Kenya. It stated that debt repayment takes first charge on ordinary revenue I.e what Kra collects. Gok should make sure that money is available and in the account 30 days prior to the due date and that money cannot be spent on other things. The balance of the money from what KRA has collected is what can be used for other expenditure and if not enough GOK borrows from the mkt. That is why in the second week of December CBK issued a Treasury bond of sh.35bn but only took 15bn since the market interest was higher than CBK targets. CBK then issued a tap sale last week to raise sh.25bn to cover for the shortfall. The closing date is 29 December. That is the money to be used to pay salaries and meet other government expenditures
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
enyands
#462 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:35:45 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Wukan the issue is the agreement Uhuruto signed with IMF President Christian Lagarde when she came to Kenya. It stated that debt repayment takes first charge on ordinary revenue I.e what Kra collects. Gok should make sure that money is available and in the account 30 days prior to the due date and that money cannot be spent on other things. The balance of the money from what KRA has collected is what can be used for other expenditure and if not enough GOK borrows from the mkt. That is why in the second week of December CBK issued a Treasury bond of sh.35bn but only took 15bn since the market interest was higher than CBK targets. CBK then issued a tap sale last week to raise sh.25bn to cover for the shortfall. The closing date is 29 December. That is the money to be used to pay salaries and meet other government expenditures

Kicking cans down the road
Angelica _ann
#463 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:35:55 AM
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winmak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who?
From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt.
Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money.
There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow.


My simplistic conspiracy theory is that IFMIS has made to fail to prove that you can't rely on technology without manual back up.



Interesting theory

So what manual system are they using to replace IFMIS to prove their case?
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murchr
#464 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:06:17 PM
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Posts: 15,980
Angelica _ann wrote:
winmak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who?
From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt.
Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money.
There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow.


My simplistic conspiracy theory is that IFMIS has made to fail to prove that you can't rely on technology without manual back up.



Interesting theory

So what manual system are they using to replace IFMIS to prove their case?



What was there before IFMIS?

Technology can fail. Ask Wazua Admin.
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maka
#465 Posted : Monday, January 02, 2017 10:23:48 AM
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gatoho wrote:
Nashak wrote:
Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone?


Almost happened to me last month. You should have tried the Tuesday at least it could have maybe saved you in future.


You might get suspended from participating in future auctions they take such stuff seriously...
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Ebenyo
#466 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:45:29 PM
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Location: Kitale
Is the T.bond for this month out yet?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
snipermnoma
#467 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:33:04 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Is the T.bond for this month out yet?


Not yet out.
Ebenyo
#468 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:40:44 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Is the T.bond for this month out yet?


Not yet out.


Which date this month should we expect?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#469 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:10:13 PM
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When us dollar vs ksh hits 107
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Chaka
#470 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:44:37 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Is the T.bond for this month out yet?


Not yet out.

What might be the tenure of this bond?
maka
#471 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:21:14 PM
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Chaka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Is the T.bond for this month out yet?


Not yet out.

What might be the tenure of this bond?


Bado mapema kujua...
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maka
#472 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:21:58 AM
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Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....
possunt quia posse videntur
Pesa Nane
#473 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:44:03 AM
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maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

I beg to differ. The positive change has been tremendous. You can query, bid, buy, pay, settle, etc from your bedside.
They are now sending out statements and tax receipts pronto!
The front desk is manned and fully functional for the 'analogue' clients.
Info on Upcoming offers, running offers, results etc is very visible (via website, newspapers, social media)
The telephone manners however....... There are yards of space for improvement
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Impunity
#474 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:59:55 AM
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Location: Masada
Pesa Nane wrote:
maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

I beg to differ. The positive change has been tremendous. You can query, bid, buy, pay, settle, etc from your bedside.
They are now sending out statements and tax receipts pronto!
The front desk is manned and fully functional for the 'analogue' clients.
Info on Upcoming offers, running offers, results etc is very visible (via website, newspapers, social media)
The telephone manners however....... There are yards of space for improvement


Me too agree.
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Chaka
#475 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 11:03:55 AM
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maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

Entering some of these poorly lit and stuffy banking halls is not interesting...When might the CDS merger thing take off though?I read of trading both of equities and T/Bills/Bonds to be done using one CDS account..
maka
#476 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 11:27:25 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

I beg to differ. The positive change has been tremendous. You can query, bid, buy, pay, settle, etc from your bedside.
They are now sending out statements and tax receipts pronto!
The front desk is manned and fully functional for the 'analogue' clients.
Info on Upcoming offers, running offers, results etc is very visible (via website, newspapers, social media)
The telephone manners however....... There are yards of space for improvement


Me too agree.


Yes they have improved but to be a world class Central Bank a wholeeeeee lot has to be done...I sent an email to ask for my statement before christmass,it was never sent...I resent jana...its 11.20 still nothing...lets see how long it takes...
possunt quia posse videntur
KulaRaha
#477 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 11:47:34 AM
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Meanwhile 1 year yield drops. Miracles.
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Pesa Nane
#478 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:24:13 PM
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Chaka wrote:
maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

Entering some of these poorly lit and stuffy banking halls is not interesting...When might the CDS merger thing take off though?I read of trading both of equities and T/Bills/Bonds to be done using one CDS account..

Change your bankers boss smile
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Chaka
#479 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:30:56 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,114
Pesa Nane wrote:
Chaka wrote:
maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

Entering some of these poorly lit and stuffy banking halls is not interesting...When might the CDS merger thing take off though?I read of trading both of equities and T/Bills/Bonds to be done using one CDS account..

Change your bankers boss smile

Is the CBK banking hall airy and well lit?Haven't been there in a while..
Pesa Nane
#480 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:56:16 PM
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Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
Chaka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Chaka wrote:
maka wrote:
Dealing with CBK is just crap and stress....

Entering some of these poorly lit and stuffy banking halls is not interesting...When might the CDS merger thing take off though?I read of trading both of equities and T/Bills/Bonds to be done using one CDS account..

Change your bankers boss smile

Is the CBK banking hall airy and well lit?Haven't been there in a while..

Well lit? Yes.
Airy? Yes
And an army to boot for your security!
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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