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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:tycho wrote:Impunity wrote:tycho wrote:Bigchick wrote:tycho wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:@Tycho u r HARD today.. Not 'today' but almost always... I have to get to the bottom of this 'hardship'. I got a feeling I could be of some help. What say you? If you got the feeling, then you're likely to be of help. And who am I to refuse help? 'After you...' Kumbe you too can fall the woman trap? Kumbe you have normal human feelings?  'Woman trap'? Please tell me more about this. Why is the woman trapping the man? That thing between the woman thayos is like the pitcher flower, the man is like the insect, he get trapped whenever he lands (pun) on it to suck the nectar!  In the picture, that insect is you and your hapless landing gear, ready to be trapped by the airport! It's interesting that when one digs deeper into this 'trap' one gets the opportunity to question their world view regarding sex.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:tycho wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:@Tycho u r HARD today.. Not 'today' but almost always... I have to get to the bottom of this 'hardship'. Have you been to Brazil?  What happens when you consider the spider as a 'sign'? Well, you could be bitten by the 'city' for example and even get a 'chronic' condition...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:What role does sex play in human life? How does it differ from sex in other organisms?
I believe sex serves as a bridge between the different dimensions that we simultaneously operate in as part of human BEING. The feeling of sexual orgasm is a good example, a bridge leading from a purely mechanical act to a transcendent spiritual experience that has been compared to religious trance. Even the act of procreation, allowing as it does a non physical being (spirit) to animate a physical earth vehicle, is a similar demonstration of this bridge function of sex. Of course sex is not the only bridge. What is the reason for this belief, the constraints of your language? For example, there are instances when sex results in neither orgasm nor a child. Is the bridge still there? What about rape that is orgasmic to the rapist? Will the rapist experience union with the other dimensions? Does this justify rape? ' You have now introduced a moral dimension which I had not considered. I had taken you questions as referring to the consensual act. In my book rape and other forms of coercion are not sex but assault. But my thinking is, whether you experience orgasm or not, the bridge is always there. Similarly the process of conception to birth is a similar bridge experience, only stretched out over time. The very meaning of our existence requires BEING in multiple dimensions (realities if you like) simultaneously, some of which it seems can only be bridged through such instruments as sex, drugs, some religious states etc. I'm trying to understand this BEING that is fragmented but bridgeable through various paths. Quite a difficult idea, in my opinion. It's like saying all sex is dialectical. Which, would preclude the necessity of multiple dimensions. I think we have discussed this before. My belief, and I have tried to offer proof in the past, is that the selves we call Human Being are not limited to the body, nor even to the 3 dimensional earth reality we are familiar with. I believe we are 'massive' beings that experience reality in multiple ways, multiple realms and dimensions. Some of these realms/dimensions can be bridged and in fact religion talks a lot about it. All I am saying is that sex is one such bridge. There are many others of course Quote:
Think about your idea of 'assault'. Are you using it as a legal concept? If yes, then you're probably in trouble... because there's the concept of 'non consensual sex'. Which makes the matter of assault easier to handle.
No. I mean it as a moral concept...which I know puts me in even more trouble. But in my book sex is meant to be consensual, irrespective of the way the consentors may chose to partake in it. Any person who coerces sex (non consensual) is no better than the robber who takes your goods by force. Such an act can not be called sex according to me. It is criminal assault. I'm still using your post as fuel @Wakanyugi.... I'll be back soon!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,921
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Is satisfaction individual or coupled? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Is satisfaction individual or coupled? I'd say it depends on so many factors. But a continuum would have individual satisfaction, and coupled satisfaction somewhere in between... and also 'no satisfaction' is possible whether individually or in a couple.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Wakanyugi, I think it's time for me to close this investigation. Thank you for sharing with us the contents of your 'book', even though I find them most disatisfactory and even simplistic.
I realize that it's not my duty to tell you what's right or wrong, or even to demand that your book reads like mine.
Fortunately, this investigation has led me through many thinkers, psychologists/psychiatrists, lay people, and at last the greatest achievement has come in the form of 'post Freudian' understanding of myself and of humanity in general.
This has helped me resolve an issues that has plagued me all my life. Guilt about my sexuality has diminished greatly, and perhaps my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before.
Isn't that a fitting close to such a demanding investigation? I think it is!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Big Chick, the offer you made, about helping... now I question it. Mainly because it's a motif that's so common. A woman is a man's helper, and consequently many women present themselves in such light.
That approach may be false or harmful especially when it fails to question our motives and desires critically. In such cases, a relationship easily slides to what @impunity called 'the trap'.
Once again I find myself alienated to the idea of marriage as a tool for creating and supporting social order. Or 'love' being used so frequently and perhaps thoughtlessly because it seems so obvious or so unquestionable.
All the same, my major challenge seems to be about remembering these thoughts when I meet an attractive or even 'suggestive' woman.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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tycho wrote:my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before. Says who?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before. Says who? @tycho of course!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:Is satisfaction individual or coupled? You have raised an important point since statistics say that only a small number of women can climax via penile thrusting, while men "mwaga" and snore off which means 80% of women are sexually unsatisfied. So the big question is..... how do we make these women orgasm 100% of the time like we do? www.womansday.com/relati...ts-about-orgasms-111985/C+P According to statistics, as many as 1 in 3 women have trouble reaching orgasm when having sex. And as many as 80 percent of women have difficulty with orgasm from vaginal intercourse alone. Clitoral stimulation during intercourse can help, says Stern.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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tycho wrote:aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before. Says who? @tycho of course! @Tycho is having sex with @Tycho so that @Tycho tells @Tycho when prowess is low or high?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before. Says who? @tycho of course! @Tycho is having sex with @Tycho so that @Tycho tells @Tycho when prowess is low or high? No. @tycho is aware of a skill that has been developed in him and that can be evaluated as improved. And that can be sampled on simulation or otherwise...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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tycho wrote:aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before. Says who? @tycho of course! @Tycho is having sex with @Tycho so that @Tycho tells @Tycho when prowess is low or high? No. @tycho is aware of a skill that has been developed in him and that can be evaluated as improved. And that can be sampled on simulation or otherwise... @Tycho has become aware of a (just one?) skill (as a lover) developed in him. How did this awareness become apparent? Can @Tycho define the parameters and scenario of simulation. Is @Tycho inviting Citizens of the Virtual Republic to sample this new found prowess as a lover?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@aeM, so far I can identify 3 skills essential to the lover. 1. Skill of sight 2. Skill of understanding and 3. Skill of action. Of these I have that of sight. I'm trying to develop that of understanding now.
The models? The skill of sight is one of semiotic awareness. Is sex a semiotic system? Is the universe a semiotic system? Another important source of modelling is quantum mechanics. Could quantum mechanics be the mechanics of semiotic systems?
Can we have a re-understanding of human psychology? Baudrillard, who I think is really deep has thrown a hint of a post Freudian psychology... I'm really keen on this.
I've been working on this for sometime in my cave, but yes of course, I'm already engaging the republic!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Sex. Lover. Lover. Sex. As a mass man, I perceive sex and lover as involving two beings. The man and the woman Or The Man and the Man Or The Woman and the Woman Or The Man and the Beast OR the Woman and the Beast. There is also the man on himself with the help of Vaseline/Arimi's Milking Jelly Et Al. Or The woman on herself. I guess you would not know about that, or would you? This new prowess that @Tycho has discovered in his cave, which of the above does it feature? Understanding and sight skills. Where does the visually impaired man fall?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:Sex. Lover.
Lover. Sex.
As a mass man, I perceive sex and lover as involving two beings.
The man and the woman Or The Man and the Man Or The Woman and the Woman Or The Man and the Beast OR the Woman and the Beast.
There is also the man on himself with the help of Vaseline/Arimi's Milking Jelly Et Al.
Or The woman on herself. I guess you would not know about that, or would you?
This new prowess that @Tycho has discovered in his cave, which of the above does it feature?
Understanding and sight skills. Where does the visually impaired man fall?
If you look at your post you'll notice a contradiction. Sex, lover, isn't necessarily about two beings. But at least one human being must be involved. This prowess is for all or most of the above. Visual impairment is the norm and sight the exception. But a transition is possible through training of the senses.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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tycho wrote:aemathenge wrote:Sex. Lover.
Lover. Sex.
As a mass man, I perceive sex and lover as involving two beings.
The man and the woman Or The Man and the Man Or The Woman and the Woman Or The Man and the Beast OR the Woman and the Beast.
There is also the man on himself with the help of Vaseline/Arimi's Milking Jelly Et Al.
Or The woman on herself. I guess you would not know about that, or would you?
This new prowess that @Tycho has discovered in his cave, which of the above does it feature?
Understanding and sight skills. Where does the visually impaired man fall?
If you look at your post you'll notice a contradiction. Sex, lover, isn't necessarily about two beings. But at least one human being must be involved. This prowess is for all or most of the above. Visual impairment is the norm and sight the exception. But a transition is possible through training of the senses. I rest. Nothing further.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:tycho wrote:aemathenge wrote:Sex. Lover.
Lover. Sex.
As a mass man, I perceive sex and lover as involving two beings.
The man and the woman Or The Man and the Man Or The Woman and the Woman Or The Man and the Beast OR the Woman and the Beast.
There is also the man on himself with the help of Vaseline/Arimi's Milking Jelly Et Al.
Or The woman on herself. I guess you would not know about that, or would you?
This new prowess that @Tycho has discovered in his cave, which of the above does it feature?
Understanding and sight skills. Where does the visually impaired man fall?
If you look at your post you'll notice a contradiction. Sex, lover, isn't necessarily about two beings. But at least one human being must be involved. This prowess is for all or most of the above. Visual impairment is the norm and sight the exception. But a transition is possible through training of the senses. I rest. Nothing further. Thank you.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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tycho wrote:@Wakanyugi, I think it's time for me to close this investigation. Thank you for sharing with us the contents of your 'book', even though I find them most disatisfactory and even simplistic.
I realize that it's not my duty to tell you what's right or wrong, or even to demand that your book reads like mine.
Fortunately, this investigation has led me through many thinkers, psychologists/psychiatrists, lay people, and at last the greatest achievement has come in the form of 'post Freudian' understanding of myself and of humanity in general.
This has helped me resolve an issues that has plagued me all my life. Guilt about my sexuality has diminished greatly, and perhaps my prowess as a lover increased in ways I couldn't imagine before.
Isn't that a fitting close to such a demanding investigation? I think it is! Jambo Tycho and happy new year. I was hopping we had left this stuff back in 2016, but it seems I was off by quite a bit. You are right, my book rarely ever reads like your book and nor should it. But how many books have you found that carry the same take on sex as mine? Freud is old hat and I would strongly urge you not to buy that 'sex as guilty' stuff. It is a con; the most common tool of mass manipulation after religion. One that has been applied with specially devastating impact the female half of the worlds population. Tell me Tycho, what is it about sex that scares the elite of our society (mostly male) so much that they have to invent such diabolical controls as FGM, witch burning and generally female suppression across the board? My theory is that the transdimensional bridging effect of sexual contact potentially offers the masses access to certain knowledge and effects that our 'leaders' would prefer remain hidden. But that is my book as you have said. All the same enjoy your newly found, er...prowess between the sheets. More power to you. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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