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KulaRaha		#441 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:36:49 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514		Swenani wrote: KulaRaha wrote: Impunity wrote: KulaRaha wrote: Impunity wrote: KulaRaha wrote: MatataMingi wrote: 2 year bond this week. I reckon interest will be between 12 to 12.5 % Any comments or predictions. Maybe a bit higher to 12.9% What will be the WHT for this 2 year bond? I doubt it will be 10%, I can guess it will be 15%. WHT is 15% as normal. For Bonds it never normal, the government Bonds are very political and the WHT can be anything other than 15%. Please check the paper first then come back. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL your alleged knowledge of bonds is scary...and weird. It's even scary to imagine that there are people depending on him to make sound financial decisions which will most likely affect their future Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Impunity		#442 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08:25 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada		KulaRaha wrote: Swenani wrote: KulaRaha wrote: Impunity wrote: KulaRaha wrote: Impunity wrote: KulaRaha wrote: MatataMingi wrote: 2 year bond this week. I reckon interest will be between 12 to 12.5 % Any comments or predictions. Maybe a bit higher to 12.9% What will be the WHT for this 2 year bond? I doubt it will be 10%, I can guess it will be 15%. WHT is 15% as normal. For Bonds it never normal, the government Bonds are very political and the WHT can be anything other than 15%. Please check the paper first then come back. LOOOOOOOOOOOOL your alleged knowledge of bonds is scary...and weird. It's even scary to imagine that there are people depending on him to make sound financial decisions which will most likely affect their future LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL..est! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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KulaRaha		#443 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 12:58:13 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514		Interesting scenario unfolding...CBK wants bond rates down, market feel otherwise. So now what will happen with the 20B CBK could not raise? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Nashak		#444 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:06:45 PM
Rank: Hello Joined: 4/3/2011 Posts: 1 Location: USA		Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone?
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Pesa Nane		#445 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:44:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c		Nashak wrote: Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone? userment Pap! Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Impunity		#446 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:52:57 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada		Pesa Nane wrote: Nashak wrote: Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone? userment Pap! For the next couple of years he will not "set foot" on CBK doors! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Angelica _ann		#447 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:54:10 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908		Impunity wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Nashak wrote: Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone? userment Pap! For the next couple of years he will not "set foot" on CBK doors! Trump will also user him soon, pole!!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Swenani		#448 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:06:28 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		Angelica _ann wrote: Impunity wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Nashak wrote: Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone? userment Pap! For the next couple of years he will not "set foot" on CBK doors! Trump will also user him soon, pole!!!!! woi If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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gatoho		#449 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 9:02:54 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a		Nashak wrote: Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone? Almost happened to me last month. You should have tried the Tuesday at least it could have maybe saved you in future. Foresight..
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Chaka		#450 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 11:02:51 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114		Nashak wrote: Someone wazua me this one. I had put in a bid which was successful but was not able to rtgs them chums by Monday 2pm deadline. I figured Tuesday would be late so I scraped it and went on with other business. What does NDO do to the likes of me? Is the Monday 2pm deadline written in stone? Check # 4, https://www.centralbank....urities/treasury-bills/ I,e if Monday is a holiday then tuesday is the deadline..
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Liv		#451 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:33:52 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311		KulaRaha wrote: Interesting scenario unfolding...CBK wants bond rates down, market feel otherwise. So now what will happen with the 20B CBK could not raise? By Thursday this week CBK had obtained 13B of this through tap sale of the same bond at 12.509%. I guess by the deadline next week, they will have received almost all the 20B. They've have won.
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KulaRaha		#452 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 8:25:30 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514		I hear bulk is from one GoK controlled bank. :) Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Ericsson		#453 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:14:44 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI		@kularaha That must surely be KCB which has the financial muscle to do that Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson		#454 Posted : Monday, December 26, 2016 1:39:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI		GOK employees hawajalipwa coz gava is broke. Then they come up with a reason that IFMIS has broken down. Interest payments for gok borrowing due and they take first priority Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Cornelius Vanderbilt		#455 Posted : Monday, December 26, 2016 3:38:12 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817		Ericsson wrote: GOK employees hawajalipwa coz gava is broke. Then they come up with a reason that IFMIS has broken down. Interest payments for gok borrowing due and they take first priority for how long will they use this excuse ?time is surely running out
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Ericsson		#456 Posted : Monday, December 26, 2016 9:44:03 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI		I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who? From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt. Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money. There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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wukan		#457 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:17:06 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590		Ericsson wrote: I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who? From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt. Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money. There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow. I saw this on twitter and I think it's alarmist wishful thinking. Govt doesn't run out of money it just inflates itself out of debt. For Eurobond the forex reserves are ok. Early days still
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murchr		#458 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 8:32:52 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		Ericsson wrote: I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who? From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt. Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money. There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow. Has your account been hacked? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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kaka2za		#459 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:14:38 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu		Ericsson wrote: I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who? From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt. Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money. There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow. My simplistic conspiracy theory is that IFMIS has made to fail to prove that you can't rely on technology without manual back up. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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winmak		#460 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 10:50:20 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 539 Location: Nakuru		kaka2za wrote: Ericsson wrote: I’m not an economy expert but i can smell a rat with IFMIS catastrophic breakdown, who is fooling who? From sources Jubilee regime had to suspend all payments to meet our Army & Police services salaries to avoid revolt. Jubilee regime is at crossroad they have Eurobond loan to pay 46B to be precise before year closes & there is no money. There is an emergency meeting tomorrow to address EuroBond payment which is pressing jubilee thus why a holiday tomorrow. My simplistic conspiracy theory is that IFMIS has made to fail to prove that you can't rely on technology without manual back up. Interesting theory For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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