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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#6781 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:56:28 AM
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One of the things I like about David Ohana at KK is his measured approach to expansion. Slow but sure. He got rid of under-performing assets including Tanzania and I hope he does the same for Ethiopia. Ethiopia isn't loss-making but I'd rather have the cash from its sale. Ohana doesn't want to double his sales for the sake of it but he wants to increase PROFITABLE sales. KK has deliberately stopped/reduced supplying poor payers eg KQ.

KK is increasing its higher margin retail stations and LPG sales. In addition, plans to open a new lubricant blending plant are in place for the production of high margin lubes.

Another CEO, Nick Hutchinson, is expanding Unga's capacity slowly but surely. During the AGM, he said Unga will invest in a new Wheat Plant in phases over 3 years so as to manage the debt load prudently i.e. he wants Unga's cashflow (not just borrowings) to pay for the expansion. I expect a cap on dividends from Unga for 3 years but that is a-OK in my books as it obviates the need for a Rights Issue.

Unga has beefed up its Ugandan subsidiary and Kenyan units with "managers" to push development & sales of new products before the new mill is installed. Unga has also reduced its exposure to slow-paying customers/distributors including two (unnamed) supermarket chains.

What Naikuni did was believe his own bull***t. They bought too many planes for markets/routes that were not developed. Furthermore, the hedges that Mbugua, who I believe is a crook, entered into were suspect and saddled KQ with huge bills to pay. If KQ had gone with a slow replacement policy of the 767s with the 787s then KQ might have been OK.

Good luck to KQ but for "investment" purposes I shall stick to Unga and KK.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ArrestedDev
#6782 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:18:06 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
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muandiwambeu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.



Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...0884-lix9ywz/index.html[/quote]
No full year profit at sight. It is a sigh of relief for some of us that a man who orchestrated plunder after plunder is finally departing forever.


Because I know how many of the workers toil and sweat for this company yet they have shitty compensation/remuneration ...We can blame the workers all we want but the real culprit is TN and his gang if he had listened the airline would have been still profitable till now and probably the share price would be at its 100s

Nothing wrong with expansion under TN. The underlying issue is corruption and mismanagement. Every move taken was laced with corruption.

@ArrestedDev You have to be kidding me! d'oh! Liar Shame on you d'oh! Liar Shame on you
The zeal to expand at a lightning pace has hobbled KQ. A slow but measured expansion would have not given employees [yes, I know you are one] such a hold over KQ.
As I have stated before EVERYONE [incl employees] but shareholders made money off KQ.
TN and the board went crazy over the rapid expansion thus incurred a massive UNSUSTAINABLE debt load and systems failures.


Nothing wrong with expansion. Corruption and mismanagement is what brought KQ to its current status. There is nothing else. Mismanagement meant lack of controls. Do you know how much was lost? Single sourcing loans meant corruption.

ET has carried out expansion without corruption. It is even not well managed. It is just average kind of management and it is doing very well. Just mix corruption in Kenya with a high cost operating environment and the results are toxic.
obiero
#6783 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 6:21:32 PM
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Still at KES 6..The bargain of 2016.. Can't wait to see FY results.. The only way for KQ is upwards

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#6784 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:41:11 PM
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obiero wrote:
Still at KES 6..The bargain of 2016.. Can't wait to see FY results.. The only way for KQ is upwards

All talk. No action. If what you say is true... why don't you put 50% of your wealth into KQ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6785 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:33:51 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Still at KES 6..The bargain of 2016.. Can't wait to see FY results.. The only way for KQ is upwards

All talk. No action. If what you say is true... why don't you put 50% of your wealth into KQ?

I just might bro, but only upon seeing the full year results

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#6786 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:36:47 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Still at KES 6..The bargain of 2016.. Can't wait to see FY results.. The only way for KQ is upwards

All talk. No action. If what you say is true... why don't you put 50% of your wealth into KQ?

I just might bro, but only upon seeing the full year results
Good Luck.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#6787 Posted : Monday, December 26, 2016 4:04:15 PM
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Kenya Airways Investors you can console yourselves the stock gained 20% this year.lol. from its low of 4.93.This is one pain n the butt stock.
obiero
#6788 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:38:01 AM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Kenya Airways Investors you can console yourselves the stock gained 20% this year.lol. from its low of 4.93.This is one pain n the butt stock.

Wait for February 2017

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#6789 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:56:18 AM
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The year is not yet over.The remaining three days can make a difference.
After closing prices on Friday the yearly gains and losses can be computed
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#6790 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:29:04 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
The year is not yet over.The remaining three days can make a difference.
After closing prices on Friday the yearly gains and losses can be computed

True. But one thing remains certain, KQ shall rally upon Ngunze successor announcement

KQ ABP 4.26
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