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Pastor Kiuna
Anti_Burglar
#71 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:27:55 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
masukuma wrote:
Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?

And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?

It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.

But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.

Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.

The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.


They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious.


I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help.

I made the list.... smile ... mbele ya Tycho Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . Najua natafuta kichapo but isokei... I made the list!!


Hiyo list iangaliwe tena. We cannot accept rigged lists.
Swenani
#72 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:35:22 AM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
It's sunday, don't forget to tithe
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
masukuma
#73 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2016 10:30:12 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Swenani wrote:
It's sunday, don't forget to tithe

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Lolest!
#74 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 6:24:56 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
As per the Sunday Nation's interviews with members, this story was cooked up. They didn't buy dad a jet
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
maka
#75 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 7:00:04 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?

And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?

It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.

But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.

Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.

The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.


They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious.


I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help.

I made the list.... smile ... mbele ya Tycho Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . Najua natafuta kichapo but isokei... I made the list!!


Hiyo list iangaliwe tena. We cannot accept rigged lists.


smile
possunt quia posse videntur
hardwood
#76 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 9:02:07 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
quicksand
#77 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 10:03:40 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
Lolest! wrote:
As per the Sunday Nation's interviews with members, this story was cooked up. They didn't buy dad a jet



...plot twist: What an ingenious way to implant a rather unpalatable idea into the congregation's minds!
I can see it now,....blasted over the PA systems to a jubilant crowd.

Quote:
"And they said that we can't get a jet? Can we get jet BROTHERS and SISTERS? somebody say amen!"


Quote:
"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! AMEEEEEEN!"


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Liv
#78 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 10:12:18 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/14/2006
Posts: 1,311
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?

And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?

It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.

But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.

Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.

The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.


They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious.


I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help.


Hiyo orodha yako ni bogof zaidi. Ati Angelica .... hapana, wacha kutuenjoy, dada. Impunity afadhali.



Watch Angelica from now...... You will see why she made it to the list....lol

Swenani
#79 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 10:36:48 AM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
quicksand wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
As per the Sunday Nation's interviews with members, this story was cooked up. They didn't buy dad a jet



...plot twist: What an ingenious way to implant a rather unpalatable idea into the congregation's minds!
I can see it now,....blasted over the PA systems to a jubilant crowd.

Quote:
"And they said that we can't get a jet? Can we get jet BROTHERS and SISTERS? somebody say amen!"


Quote:
"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! AMEEEEEEN!"


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#80 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 11:22:46 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
masukuma wrote:
Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?

And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?

It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.

But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.

Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.

The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.


They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious.


I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help.

I made the list.... smile ... mbele ya Tycho Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . Najua natafuta kichapo but isokei... I made the list!!


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