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masukuma wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?
And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?
It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.
But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.
Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.
The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.
They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious. I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help. I made the list....  ... mbele ya Tycho  . Najua natafuta kichapo but isokei... I made the list!! Hiyo list iangaliwe tena. We cannot accept rigged lists.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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It's sunday, don't forget to tithe If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:It's sunday, don't forget to tithe All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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As per the Sunday Nation's interviews with members, this story was cooked up. They didn't buy dad a jet
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?
And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?
It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.
But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.
Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.
The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.
They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious. I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help. I made the list....  ... mbele ya Tycho  . Najua natafuta kichapo but isokei... I made the list!! Hiyo list iangaliwe tena. We cannot accept rigged lists. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:As per the Sunday Nation's interviews with members, this story was cooked up. They didn't buy dad a jet ...plot twist: What an ingenious way to implant a rather unpalatable idea into the congregation's minds! I can see it now,....blasted over the PA systems to a jubilant crowd. Quote:"And they said that we can't get a jet? Can we get jet BROTHERS and SISTERS? somebody say amen!" Quote:"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! AMEEEEEEN!"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?
And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?
It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.
But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.
Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.
The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.
They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious. I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help. Hiyo orodha yako ni bogof zaidi. Ati Angelica .... hapana, wacha kutuenjoy, dada. Impunity afadhali. Watch Angelica from now...... You will see why she made it to the list....lol
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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quicksand wrote:Lolest! wrote:As per the Sunday Nation's interviews with members, this story was cooked up. They didn't buy dad a jet ...plot twist: What an ingenious way to implant a rather unpalatable idea into the congregation's minds! I can see it now,....blasted over the PA systems to a jubilant crowd. Quote:"And they said that we can't get a jet? Can we get jet BROTHERS and SISTERS? somebody say amen!" Quote:"YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! AMEEEEEEN!" If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Is it possible for humans to know what's moral or ethical without bias to a frame of reference?
And how can a frame of reference be, without a book/books?
It's on such grounds that atheism must equate itself to religion.
But my main point is simple: If Kiuna has 'conned' anyone, then it's not possible to prove that it's because of religion per se, and not because of how capital works.
Why don't the atheists speak against capitalism which fleeces people out of their souls? The answer is simple, atheism speaks the language of capital and that's why it can't see where the problem lies.
The good thing about @Hambuglar and his converts is that they keep on demonstrating time and again how uncritical their thinking can get and how 'normal' they are even when they profess greater intelligence.
They seem to have forgotten that atheism itself is older than some religions like Christianity. And most of these expressions of atheism were and have been religious. I have looked at his threads and arguments to see the depth of his intelligence. There is nothing to show anything above average intelligence there....in fact I doubt he can get a score of anything above 80 in the IQ ranking based purely on his arguments here. He cannot hold a candle to people like Masukuma, Maka, Tycho, Obi, Angelica, etc who bring well thought out arguments here. Yet he has to keep reminding everyone how intelligent he is and how he has employed some religious fools. He needs help. I made the list....  ... mbele ya Tycho  . Najua natafuta kichapo but isokei... I made the list!! 'No comment.'
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