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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#6771 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 6:40:03 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#6772 Posted : Saturday, December 17, 2016 10:38:29 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.
Life is short. Live passionately.
maka
#6773 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2016 7:47:31 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...
possunt quia posse videntur
sparkly
#6774 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:34:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#6775 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 7:21:14 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...90884-lix9ywz/index.html

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#6776 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 9:36:02 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...0884-lix9ywz/index.html[/quote]
No full year profit at sight. It is a sigh of relief for some of us that a man who orchestrated plunder after plunder is finally departing forever.
maka
#6777 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 10:38:17 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...0884-lix9ywz/index.html[/quote]
No full year profit at sight. It is a sigh of relief for some of us that a man who orchestrated plunder after plunder is finally departing forever.


Because I know how many of the workers toil and sweat for this company yet they have shitty compensation/remuneration ...We can blame the workers all we want but the real culprit is TN and his gang if he had listened the airline would have been still profitable till now and probably the share price would be at its 100s
possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#6778 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 1:15:16 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.



Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...0884-lix9ywz/index.html[/quote]
No full year profit at sight. It is a sigh of relief for some of us that a man who orchestrated plunder after plunder is finally departing forever.


Because I know how many of the workers toil and sweat for this company yet they have shitty compensation/remuneration ...We can blame the workers all we want but the real culprit is TN and his gang if he had listened the airline would have been still profitable till now and probably the share price would be at its 100s

Nothing wrong with expansion under TN. The underlying issue is corruption and mismanagement. Every move taken was laced with corruption.
obiero
#6779 Posted : Monday, December 19, 2016 11:04:19 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.


Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...0884-lix9ywz/index.html[/quote]
No full year profit at sight. It is a sigh of relief for some of us that a man who orchestrated plunder after plunder is finally departing forever.


Because I know how many of the workers toil and sweat for this company yet they have shitty compensation/remuneration ...We can blame the workers all we want but the real culprit is TN and his gang if he had listened the airline would have been still profitable till now and probably the share price would be at its 100s

@maka please read about the world view of KQ staff https://www.consumeraffa...ravel/kenya_airways.html

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#6780 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:41:38 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
maka wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
[quote=obiero][quote=Ebenyo][quote=VituVingiSana][quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool

You will never be forgotten. Ngunze our hero.. A well written piece http://www.businessdaily...7854-12tcthv/index.html[/quote]

Good manager tackling bad business.



Which good manager? You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. At 45 without solid senior management experience you think you can learn aviation fundamentals even if you listen to middle level managers? Let him go to hell.







Quote in Full-

"When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact." ~ Warren Buffet

Ngunze is destined for better things.. Hii KQ wacha ibaki na vinyangarika wa kuiba perfumes na cologne


Very interesting seeing you bashing your own pet project.
Michael Joseph is surely a credible guy.He is the sole reason why the share price is 6.00 And some of us might buy kq because of him.If the company will get a good CEO like Bob Collymore or James Mwangi,i will definetly believe in the kq turnaround.

KQ as a business is sound. The problem is the employees who thieve and plunder at every opportunity.. Employees who strike incessantly and yet they work very little. Obviously not all, but the culture there is rotten


Pewa mbili hapo ulipo.


I don't agree with this...


What don't you agree with elder?[the /quote]
Full year may very well be a profit.. We never gave him enough time.. Look at what Ngunze has now achieved for KQ http://www.businessdaily...0884-lix9ywz/index.html[/quote]
No full year profit at sight. It is a sigh of relief for some of us that a man who orchestrated plunder after plunder is finally departing forever.


Because I know how many of the workers toil and sweat for this company yet they have shitty compensation/remuneration ...We can blame the workers all we want but the real culprit is TN and his gang if he had listened the airline would have been still profitable till now and probably the share price would be at its 100s

Nothing wrong with expansion under TN. The underlying issue is corruption and mismanagement. Every move taken was laced with corruption.

@ArrestedDev You have to be kidding me! d'oh! Liar Shame on you d'oh! Liar Shame on you
The zeal to expand at a lightning pace has hobbled KQ. A slow but measured expansion would have not given employees [yes, I know you are one] such a hold over KQ.
As I have stated before EVERYONE [incl employees] but shareholders made money off KQ.
TN and the board went crazy over the rapid expansion thus incurred a massive UNSUSTAINABLE debt load and systems failures.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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