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Pastor Kiuna
hamburglar
#1 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 2:41:15 AM
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Pastor/bishop/reverened (whatever his title is) If the private jet is not enough proof that religion is detrimental, then I don't know what will ever convince religious people that they are being taken for a ride. Only that the ride is not in Kiuna's private jet. Lol. I wonder what the prayer warriors walking around town in torn shoes and empty stomachs have to say about this.

How can religious people be so gullible? Just how can people be taken advantage of like this and not say a thing? A private jet allegedly worth 2.1 billion? And yet his sheep are wallowing in poverty? I am completely baffled how people can still attend this guy's church and contribute their little hard earned money towards the purchase of this private jet. This fraud did not buy a car, he bought a jet. His prayer warriors and church people can hardly afford a square meal and the guy is flying around in a freaking jet? 😂😂😂

I just don't get it. I will never understand religion and religious people. Like I have said before, I think religion is some sort of mental disorder. There is no way any sane person can still go to this guy's church on Sunday and tithe or pay sadaka. You would have to be mentally ill to do that. If anybody goes to this guy's church and contributes money, they seriously need to seek psychiatric help.

One time I sent messages to a prominent pastor on facebook challenging him/her to stop taking advantage of his/her naive sheep and after the person felt that i had cornered them and called them out thoroughly on their BS, I got a message back on my phone threatening my life which I took to the CID. I wonder how that pastor got my number so please admin keep my information very private. These people would kill somebody who dares them and tries to take away their illegal source of income. They are some of the most dangerous people in our midst. Sometimes I am genuinely scared of challenging them. This is Kenya after all, you don't want to mess with these kind of thugs who hide behind such monikers as pastors and bishops and priests while in reality they are simply just thieves, some of them violent criminals.
Swenani
#2 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 8:36:34 AM
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hamburglar wrote:
Pastor/bishop/reverened (whatever his title is) If the private jet is not enough proof that religion is detrimental, then I don't know what will ever convince religious people that they are being taken for a ride. Only that the ride is not in Kiuna's private jet. Lol. I wonder what the prayer warriors walking around town in torn shoes and empty stomachs have to say about this.

How can religious people be so gullible? Just how can people be taken advantage of like this and not say a thing? A private jet allegedly worth 2.1 billion? And yet his sheep are wallowing in poverty? I am completely baffled how people can still attend this guy's church and contribute their little hard earned money towards the purchase of this private jet. This fraud did not buy a car, he bought a jet. His prayer warriors and church people can hardly afford a square meal and the guy is flying around in a freaking jet? 😂😂😂

I just don't get it. I will never understand religion and religious people. Like I have said before, I think religion is some sort of mental disorder. There is no way any sane person can still go to this guy's church on Sunday and tithe or pay sadaka. You would have to be mentally ill to do that. If anybody goes to this guy's church and contributes money, they seriously need to seek psychiatric help.

One time I sent messages to a prominent pastor on facebook challenging him/her to stop taking advantage of his/her naive sheep and after the person felt that i had cornered them and called them out thoroughly on their BS, I got a message back on my phone threatening my life which I took to the CID. I wonder how that pastor got my number so please admin keep my information very private. These people would kill somebody who dares them and tries to take away their illegal source of income. They are some of the most dangerous people in our midst. Sometimes I am genuinely scared of challenging them. This is Kenya after all, you don't want to mess with these kind of thugs who hide behind such monikers as pastors and bishops and priests while in reality they are simply just thieves, some of them violent criminals.


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Coolio
#3 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 8:48:49 AM
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Why can't these pastors emulate Christ's humility?
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masukuma
#4 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 9:51:43 AM
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kayhara
#5 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 9:54:27 AM
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Let the sons and daughters of zion take care of their dad and mum, although I wonder what the jet is for in Kenya, do they have branches in other towns, very few destinations in kenya, is it a holiday jet?
If at all it's true the running cost will soon lemea the sons and daughters of zion, if they want to take dad and mum to the air buy them a chopper ama they don't have a say on how the church money is used.
To Each His Own
Wakanyugi
#6 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 9:55:24 AM
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Coolio wrote:
Why can't these pastors emulate Christ's humility?


Humility, bah!

When did humility last put money in your pocket?

And by the way, the religion that JC practiced (if you can call it that) is very far removed from the business edifices we see today.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Angelica _ann
#7 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 10:01:21 AM
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Sio pesa yenu, machungu ni ya nini?
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Thitifini
#8 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 10:17:19 AM
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It's not fraud! He asked "hey, can you guys buy me a jet😉?" and they answered "YEEEES DAD"

Wacheni wivu.

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quicksand
#9 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 10:21:31 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Sio pesa yenu, machungu ni ya nini?


These people are gullible and these pastors take advantage to abuse the power and influence they have over them. It is not abnormal to feel empathy for the brainwashed masses and rage at the pastors....may be if put in another context you might understand...for instance, a sister, cousin or dear friend who fell completely and hopelessly for a bad and abusive man and you had to be the shoulder to cry on, pick up the pieces..yet they keep going back and its impossible to fathom why?
It is the same with these religious sheep.

masukuma
#10 Posted : Friday, December 16, 2016 10:26:21 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Sio pesa yenu, machungu ni ya nini?

eh bwana... watu waache machungu. people use their money in all manner of ways. Ulevi... SportsPesa... Mtu mzima amejileta Nairobi, analipa rent labda ana mke na watoto na ameamua hivyo ndio atatumia pesa - ni sawa! In the same way watu hukulwa na mama pima or those light skinned ladies hunyosha wanaume out of their bonus earnings - wacha 'mummy na daddy' wajijenge... hiyo ndio shamba yao! my policy on this matters is... bora usinikujie ukiomba... enda ukaombe daddy wenu. By the way... kwa wale watu waliwacha wazazi wao ushago wakakuja nairobi kuita watu wengine 'daddy na mummy' - Christmas munakulia wapi?
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