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Karai(Naivasha) Accident
Iganamagana
#111 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:32:57 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
hardwood wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
hardwood wrote:


We understand that you need to race your blue subarus on that road to enjoy the power of your machines lakini safety of the villagers comes first.


We are talking about a road network that serves not only Kenya but the rest of East Africa.

It is the height of hypocrisy to ignore the safety of other road users. We are not trying to imitate rally drivers.


There are hundreds of bumps on that 950km road from mombasa to malaba. Why focus on only one bump? Why not those at mtito andei, salama, mlolongo, salgaa, timboroa, cheptiret, jua kali, kipkarren etc etc?


@Hardwood. No one is focusing on one bump though this is one bump that needs to go fast. The long term solution should remove bumps from our highways. Bumps belong to class D (not all class D since some are bypasses)and other village roads! Imagine if tunnels could have been factored in some places like Survey,Witeithie, Njomoko, Clayworks, fig-tree and Ruiru on Thika road? The extra cost would have been minimal and maintenance cost almost nil.


Then let us use FIFO (first in first out) approach so that we replace all the other 200 bumps on the class A road from mombasa to malaba and then finally deal with that naivasha one that is more recent.

And FYI tunnels have a tendency to become a habitat for thugs or being turned into toilets and dumping grounds, or could become flooded. Flyovers are better and the ministry has promised to put up flyovers in all those areas you mentioned.

http://www.the-star.co.k...moved-at-sh300_c1317130


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Now you are talking. Tunnels can also be designed to ensure enough natural lighting plus visibility and little artificial lighting at night to ensure security. We could do a combination of both tunnels and footbridges considering security and cost factors.
hardwood
#112 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:34:28 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Did I hear that right?

Classic 105 FM, in one of its news briefings, has it that for those who wish to submit DNA in order to identify bodies of those burnt beyond recognition, fathers' DNA is NOT acceptable.

DNA must come from mother or sibling, but not the father.

What would be the rationale behind such a requirement?


Men behave badly. More than four unrelated bodies may have been sired by one ndume

Women cheat you that you are the father, Gava doesnt want you to get the shock of your life while grieving Sad Sad Sad


One can never be sure who the father is but one can be certain who the mother or sibling is. Collecting DNA from fathers would lead to many inconclusive cases.
FundamentAli
#113 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:42:57 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Did I hear that right?

Classic 105 FM, in one of its news briefings, has it that for those who wish to submit DNA in order to identify bodies of those burnt beyond recognition, fathers' DNA is NOT acceptable.

DNA must come from mother or sibling, but not the father.

What would be the rationale behind such a requirement?


Men behave badly. More than four unrelated bodies may have been sired by one ndume

Women cheat you that you are the father, Gava doesnt want you to get the shock of your life while grieving Sad Sad Sad

They may never identify anyone
hardwood
#114 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:46:00 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Did I hear that right?

Classic 105 FM, in one of its news briefings, has it that for those who wish to submit DNA in order to identify bodies of those burnt beyond recognition, fathers' DNA is NOT acceptable.

DNA must come from mother or sibling, but not the father.

What would be the rationale behind such a requirement?


Men behave badly. More than four unrelated bodies may have been sired by one ndume

Women cheat you that you are the father, Gava doesnt want you to get the shock of your life while grieving Sad Sad Sad

They may never identify anyone


Only the mother knows who the father of the kid is. Ok some mothers don't even know who the father is since their airports are quite busy.... it's that complicated. So the only helpful DNA can only come from the mother and siblings (unless baby was switched at birth).
aemathenge
#115 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:46:47 PM
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Location: Kerugoya
hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Did I hear that right?

Classic 105 FM, in one of its news briefings, has it that for those who wish to submit DNA in order to identify bodies of those burnt beyond recognition, fathers' DNA is NOT acceptable.

DNA must come from mother or sibling, but not the father.

What would be the rationale behind such a requirement?


Men behave badly. More than four unrelated bodies may have been sired by one ndume

Women cheat you that you are the father, Gava doesnt want you to get the shock of your life while grieving Sad Sad Sad


One can never be sure who the father is but one can be certain who the mother or sibling is. Collecting DNA from fathers would lead to many inconclusive cases.

I bet to differ.

You speak of a perfect world but you and I know Kenia (Inchi Ya Majambazi, Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo) is not perfect.

Unjambazi and Kitu Kidogo extends to our public hospitals in general and maternity wards in particular.

Numerous cases of child replacement, exchange and outright theft have been reported on our (hogwash) media.

On these grounds alone, I reject the rationale of accepting mother/siblings and disregarding father DNA.

Do you feel me?
hardwood
#116 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:49:36 PM
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Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Did I hear that right?

Classic 105 FM, in one of its news briefings, has it that for those who wish to submit DNA in order to identify bodies of those burnt beyond recognition, fathers' DNA is NOT acceptable.

DNA must come from mother or sibling, but not the father.

What would be the rationale behind such a requirement?


Men behave badly. More than four unrelated bodies may have been sired by one ndume

Women cheat you that you are the father, Gava doesnt want you to get the shock of your life while grieving Sad Sad Sad


One can never be sure who the father is but one can be certain who the mother or sibling is. Collecting DNA from fathers would lead to many inconclusive cases.

I bet to differ.

You speak of a perfect world but you and I know Kenia (Inchi Ya Majambazi, Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo) is not perfect.

Unjambazi and Kitu Kidogo extends to our public hospitals in general and maternity wards in particular.

Numerous cases of child replacement, exchange and outright theft have been reported on our (hogwash) media.

On these grounds alone, I reject the rationale of accepting mother/siblings and disregarding father DNA.

Do you feel me?


I have edited my post above #114 and put a caveat.
Swenani
#117 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 4:50:44 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
Did I hear that right?

Classic 105 FM, in one of its news briefings, has it that for those who wish to submit DNA in order to identify bodies of those burnt beyond recognition, fathers' DNA is NOT acceptable.

DNA must come from mother or sibling, but not the father.

What would be the rationale behind such a requirement?


Mbona unajibu unatafuta swali?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
aemathenge
#118 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:20:16 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Mbona unajibu unatafuta swali?

Frustrations my man, frustrations.

We have given certain institutions the mandate to carry out certain initiatives and when they do so, we do not want the results.

IEBC, NEMA, KEMRI, EACC, NTSA, Land Commission, a whole alphabet of them.

Someone at NTSA saw it fit to put up those bumps. Now we want them gone. Someone saw it fit to put those footbridges, now we want tunnels.

I live on the Meru-Kirinyaga-Makutano Road.

Khat (miraa) couriers cruise this roads at speeds I did not know ProBoxes could cruise at.

Instead of asking law enforcement officers and Silkal to enforce speeding rules, residents are demanding that speed bumps come up every one hundred meters.

Yet these same residents see no evil in drying grass and rice stalk right on the road.

The dried stuff is then made into bales, right on the road and then sold to highway users right there on the road.

Frustrations my man, frustrations.
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