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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Lolest! wrote:Used that road again to and fro
Can't be just an issue of the bumps..they're not immediately after the corner. There's enough space allowing drivers to see the bumps
Coming down there are rumble strips. 3 sets
In addition, this section is after the Kinungi section. (Heading towards Nvs). There are bumps there too
Possible brakes failure?/Driver error? He was 25. This is what I've been saying all along. That it must be a case of brake failure or careless driving. Not bumps. The bumps are smooth and well marked.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Bigchick wrote:2012 wrote:Yaani UK has laid the blame squarely on the bumps.. he he he... What is funny? Yes it part of the problem among others. About 10,000 vehicles use that road each day and go over that bump without any incident. Those are about 3m vehicles since those bumps were erected early this year. How is the bump to blame when its only 1 out of 3,000,000 vehicles which has had an issue with those bumps? They should be investigating the mechanical soundness of the canter to establish why it didn't slow down at the "well marked" bump like all the other vehicles in the vicinity did. For 14 cars on a highway to be ignited it means they were close together and must have slowed down at the bump before they were engulfed by what survivors call a river of fire from the inflamable cargo. In fact survivors say the motorists ahead were reversing and pushing the cars behind in a bid to escape from the oncoming river of fire. Exactly, we Kenyans like passing the blame to someone else all the time, mara bump, si KENHA si NTSA si Jubilee. In short, this supposedly new to the road driver (an assumption because we still don't know who he was) was not keen to observe road signs ( a road sign has been shown on the apparently very flat road not the down hill story that was first being circulated and very well done bump) and notice the break lights of the cars ahead of him. A driver who doesn't notice road signs or brake lights of the vehicles ahead of him, and goes over 3 sets of rumble strips and the bump without slowing has no business being on the road. He must have been asleep or the brakes failed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The first car that was hit by the out-of-control canter was a Toyota Avensis KBR on the other side of the road heading to Nairobi which had 5 people of which 2 survived, but it wasn't burnt. They were coming from "uthoni" at subukia. Then the canter hit other oncoming vehicles and spilled deadly cargo that exploded and burnt many. #Sad #RIP
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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We are a stupid lot, yaani hata after that guys are still overlapping and blocking others hapo. Reckless driving at the same spot even after what happened just the other day. Hata kama, ujinga ingine haieleweki, even if the president is angry I mean he can't get his cops to deal with this menace, hizi ni ujinga Sasa.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:We are a stupid lot, yaani hata after that guys are still overlapping and blocking others hapo. Reckless driving at the same spot even after what happened just the other day. Hata kama, ujinga ingine haieleweki, even if the president is angry I mean he can't get his cops to deal with this menace, hizi ni ujinga Sasa. I agree with you. We've brainless drivers on our road. I was in Naivasha yesterday and I noticed reckless driving at the accident spot. Maybe humans are built to self destruct and we've never known.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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radio wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:We are a stupid lot, yaani hata after that guys are still overlapping and blocking others hapo. Reckless driving at the same spot even after what happened just the other day. Hata kama, ujinga ingine haieleweki, even if the president is angry I mean he can't get his cops to deal with this menace, hizi ni ujinga Sasa. I agree with you. We've brainless drivers on our road. I was in Naivasha yesterday and I noticed reckless driving at the accident spot. Maybe humans are built to self destruct and we've never known. I saw a handful forensic experts collecting evidence with adequate and appropriate gear, next to them a group of 'experts' kondoo Kenyans with zero protection analyzing the situation. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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radio wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:We are a stupid lot, yaani hata after that guys are still overlapping and blocking others hapo. Reckless driving at the same spot even after what happened just the other day. Hata kama, ujinga ingine haieleweki, even if the president is angry I mean he can't get his cops to deal with this menace, hizi ni ujinga Sasa. I agree with you. We've brainless drivers on our road. I was in Naivasha yesterday and I noticed reckless driving at the accident spot. Maybe humans are built to self destruct and we've never known. Or the road and connection of roads leading to the spot- and other spots- induce a certain psychology that appears to be reckless. We shouldn't dismiss such coincidences too lightly. Maybe urban morphology and other areas of study can shed light on this matter.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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harrydre wrote:radio wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:We are a stupid lot, yaani hata after that guys are still overlapping and blocking others hapo. Reckless driving at the same spot even after what happened just the other day. Hata kama, ujinga ingine haieleweki, even if the president is angry I mean he can't get his cops to deal with this menace, hizi ni ujinga Sasa. I agree with you. We've brainless drivers on our road. I was in Naivasha yesterday and I noticed reckless driving at the accident spot. Maybe humans are built to self destruct and we've never known. I saw a handful forensic experts collecting evidence with adequate and appropriate gear, next to them a group of 'experts' kondoo Kenyans with zero protection analyzing the situation. These are the people that our local media will rely on to give the public an "informed" story. tycho wrote:Or the road and connection of roads leading to the spot- and other spots- induce a certain psychology that appears to be reckless.
We shouldn't dismiss such coincidences too lightly. Maybe urban morphology and other areas of study can shed light on this matter. As for Tycho, you've had my brains spinning real hard "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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There should be some legal restrictions on transport of such highly inflammable materials.... We should not just be talking about where and how to put bumps only. This accident might just give an idea to al shabab or other like minded groups on how to create terror in future. I hope someone in the internal security in the government has taken up this seriously. The internal security ministry should as soon as possible give direction on how transport of all highly inflammable materials will be carried out.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:radio wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:We are a stupid lot, yaani hata after that guys are still overlapping and blocking others hapo. Reckless driving at the same spot even after what happened just the other day. Hata kama, ujinga ingine haieleweki, even if the president is angry I mean he can't get his cops to deal with this menace, hizi ni ujinga Sasa. I agree with you. We've brainless drivers on our road. I was in Naivasha yesterday and I noticed reckless driving at the accident spot. Maybe humans are built to self destruct and we've never known. I saw a handful forensic experts collecting evidence with adequate and appropriate gear, next to them a group of 'experts' kondoo Kenyans with zero protection analyzing the situation. These are the people that our local media will rely on to give the public an "informed" story. tycho wrote:Or the road and connection of roads leading to the spot- and other spots- induce a certain psychology that appears to be reckless.
We shouldn't dismiss such coincidences too lightly. Maybe urban morphology and other areas of study can shed light on this matter. As for Tycho, you've had my brains spinning real hard Very simple discussion and he decides to morphologically complicate it! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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